Mother**** You Clark Hunt

['Hamas' Jenkins]

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Based on your "critical thinking" drafting a Qb #1 and playing him wouldn't put asses in the seats?

Thats ****ing ridiculous.

Swing and a miss Hamas. Swing and a miss.

In a normal city, sure.

In KC? No. The fans are morons.

[O.city]

Marcellus is the ultimate true fan. Why would this be any different for him?

[Titty Meat]

Marcellus is a piece of shit. He should stick the dog monopoly piece up his ass.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by O.city

Marcellus is the ultimate true fan. Why would this be any different for him?

Yea thats it smart ass.

Thats why I was going to buy season tickets if we drafted Geno and I am not going to do that now.

Keep talking.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Brainiac

Let's review Clark Hunt's record as owner of the Chiefs:

1. He hired Scott *****, the two-time NFL executive of the year. Hindsight is 20-20, but ***** was the hottest GM candidate at the time. There's no way you can say that AT THE TIME it was a bad hire.
2. He fired Scott ***** after 4 years. That's just about the minimum amount of time that would be reasonable.
3. He hired Andy Reid, a head coach with a proven record of NFL success.
4. He hired John Dorsey, a very well-respected guy from the front office of the Packers.
5. He let Reid and Dorsey do the jobs he hired them to do.

Hindsight is 20-20, but ***** was the hottest GM candidate at the time. There's no way you can say that AT THE TIME it was a bad hire. It obviously turned out to be a horrible hire, but it was a very sensible decision AT THE TIME. He can't fire up his flux capacitor and change it retroactively.

Hamas, I respect you as a poster, but I really don't understand what you would have Clark Hunt do differently. Should he act like Jerry Jones and overrule the decisions of the football people that he hired? Should he base his decisions on what the posters at Chiefsplanet want him to do?

Is that what you want?

This is a good post and I'm happy to reply to it.

Here's how I see it:

Clark Hunt hired the guy who was the biggest name. Not the guy who was the best candidate, the guy who was considered the best candidate. There is a difference, and when you run a business you need to differentiate between the two.

Turns out Hunt made an awful hire. Pioli is one of the two to three worst GMs in league history. But that's not why Hunt fired him. Hunt fired him because the man was so terrible at his job that it started affecting Hunt's revenue streams. So what did Hunt do? He brings in another guy. A retread, but a big name. The biggest available name.

Why? Because most people are fools, protagonists in a theater of the moronic. They see the name Andy Reid, look at his past in Philadelphia and then assume that he'll be good in his next job, ignoring potential mitigating factors like Jim Johnson, Donovan McNabb, or Reid's game management, which might be the worst in the NFL.

Then Hunt hires Dorsey, an understudy, a man who never made a draft pick on his own.

These two then go out and not only outdo the worst trade in franchise history, they do it by a factor of two, alienate their franchise LT in the process, and leave themselves with no viable alternative and one pick in the first 64. One. A pick that will be used to replace a young player who is already here.

Here's the truth of the matter: Clark Hunt is a ****ing liar. He said he wanted a team like the Steelers, then hires a guy from the Patriots who does everything The Patriot Way. He said he wanted to draft and develop his own QB, then his team trades for Matt Cassel and then Alex Smith.

Hunt is playing the fanbase. He wants to put in as little effort as possible (hence the big names rather than a broad search for the best candidate) and maximize financial return.

It's easy to build a 7-9 team in the NFL, and that's what both of his regimes have tried to do. He knows that's all he needs because that is what will fill the stadium. Clark cares about $, not wins. The Smith trade is designed to make sure this team wins 6-8 games next year. That will fill the stadium and boost STH renewals.

Winning only matters for us. We have to stop assuming that we want the same thing from the Chiefs that Hunt does. He wants money from it. You and I are credit cards for him to charge. We're line items on a P&L statement. He doesn't care about the fans and never will. He'll affect the perception of caring about the fans, but if he did, you wouldn't see the management style, hires, and tone deaf nature of the organization such as it is.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

Marcellus is a piece of shit. He should stick the dog monopoly piece up his ass.

Whats up internet tough guy.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Based on your "critical thinking" drafting a Qb #1 and playing him wouldn't put asses in the seats?

Thats ****ing ridiculous.

Swing and a miss Hamas. Swing and a miss.

Doubtful any rookie QB will win as many games as Alex Smith next year. Low ceiling, low floor. Get them to 8-8 and the sheep will rejoice. Look at the FB reaction. "Hey, he's better than Cassel." As if that ****ing matters.

[Ace Gunner]

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Mmmmmmmmm leftovers

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Sorter

All of them. I hope the rumors we were shopping Charles were true.

Ummm, what? We've been shopping Charles?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

This is a good post and I'm happy to reply to it.

Here's how I see it:

Clark Hunt hired the guy who was the biggest name. Not the guy who was the best candidate, the guy who was considered the best candidate. There is a difference, and when you run a business you need to differentiate between the two.

Turns out Hunt made an awful hire. ***** is one of the two to three worst GMs in league history. But that's not why Hunt fired him. Hunt fired him because the man was so terrible at his job that it started affecting Hunt's revenue streams. So what did Hunt do? He brings in another guy. A retread, but a big name. The biggest available name.

Why? Because most people are fools, protagonists in a theater of the moronic. They see the name Andy Reid, look at his past in Philadelphia and then assume that he'll be good in his next job, ignoring potential mitigating factors like Jim Johnson, Donovan McNabb, or Reid's game management, which might be the worst in the NFL.

Then Hunt hires Dorsey, an understudy, a man who never made a draft pick on his own.

These two then go out and not only outdo the worst trade in franchise history, they do it by a factor of two, alienate their franchise LT in the process, and leave themselves with no viable alternative and one pick in the first 64. One. A pick that will be used to replace a young player who is already here.

Here's the truth of the matter: Clark Hunt is a ****ing liar. He said he wanted a team like the Steelers, then hires a guy from the Patriots who does everything The Patriot Way. He said he wanted to draft and develop his own QB, then his team trades for Matt Cassel and then Alex Smith.

Hunt is playing the fanbase. He wants to put in as little effort as possible (hence the big names rather than a broad search for the best candidate) and maximize financial return.

It's easy to build a 7-9 team in the NFL, and that's what both of his regimes have tried to do. He knows that's all he needs because that is what will fill the stadium. Clark cares about $, not wins. The Smith trade is designed to make sure this team wins 6-8 games next year. That will fill the stadium and boost STH renewals.

Winning only matters for us. We have to stop assuming that we want the same thing from the Chiefs that Hunt does. He wants money from it. You and I are credit cards for him to charge. We're line items on a P&L statement. He doesn't care about the fans and never will. He'll affect the perception of caring about the fans, but if he did, you wouldn't see the management style, hires, and tone deaf nature of the organization such as it is.

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

[Nightfyre]

I just want to break shit. How the **** CAN THIS TEAM BE SO GODDAMNED STUPID. EVERY ****ING TIME ITS THE SAME TIRED TUNE. ****. Why do I even give a shit about this team after 20+ years of them shitting down my throat? It is clear that Clark is clueless and stupid. SMU Valedictorian clearly means nothing.

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

This is a good post and I'm happy to reply to it.

Here's how I see it:

Clark Hunt hired the guy who was the biggest name. Not the guy who was the best candidate, the guy who was considered the best candidate. There is a difference, and when you run a business you need to differentiate between the two.

Turns out Hunt made an awful hire. ***** is one of the two to three worst GMs in league history. But that's not why Hunt fired him. Hunt fired him because the man was so terrible at his job that it started affecting Hunt's revenue streams. So what did Hunt do? He brings in another guy. A retread, but a big name. The biggest available name.

Why? Because most people are fools, protagonists in a theater of the moronic. They see the name Andy Reid, look at his past in Philadelphia and then assume that he'll be good in his next job, ignoring potential mitigating factors like Jim Johnson, Donovan McNabb, or Reid's game management, which might be the worst in the NFL.

Then Hunt hires Dorsey, an understudy, a man who never made a draft pick on his own.

These two then go out and not only outdo the worst trade in franchise history, they do it by a factor of two, alienate their franchise LT in the process, and leave themselves with no viable alternative and one pick in the first 64. One. A pick that will be used to replace a young player who is already here.

Here's the truth of the matter: Clark Hunt is a ****ing liar. He said he wanted a team like the Steelers, then hires a guy from the Patriots who does everything The Patriot Way. He said he wanted to draft and develop his own QB, then his team trades for Matt Cassel and then Alex Smith.

Hunt is playing the fanbase. He wants to put in as little effort as possible (hence the big names rather than a broad search for the best candidate) and maximize financial return.

It's easy to build a 7-9 team in the NFL, and that's what both of his regimes have tried to do. He knows that's all he needs because that is what will fill the stadium. Clark cares about $, not wins. The Smith trade is designed to make sure this team wins 6-8 games next year. That will fill the stadium and boost STH renewals.

Winning only matters for us. We have to stop assuming that we want the same thing from the Chiefs that Hunt does. He wants money from it. You and I are credit cards for him to charge. We're line items on a P&L statement. He doesn't care about the fans and never will. He'll affect the perception of caring about the fans, but if he did, you wouldn't see the management style, hires, and tone deaf nature of the organization such as it is.

Fair enough. I've defended Clark Hunt several times recently on this forum, but I see where you're coming from, and I can't really dispute anything you've said.

Thanks a lot. Now I'm pissed off too. Mother**** you Clark Hunt!

[O.city]

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Heres the dagger

[bevischief]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Clark treats this team and its fans like the rubes they are: fools to be soaked of their money. He stepped in and fired ***** because of attendance. The record didn't matter to Hunt, the consequence of the record (fewer ST sales, concessions, etc) did. The man doesn't care about winning and that's obviously noted by the fact that he never takes risks to win. The target for this organization is 8-8 because they know that if they hover around that mark they don't have to spend much money and money will flow in from desperate, deluded fans who hope for a chance.

Some companies invest in their products by spending more money to make them with the best materials possible. Others cut corners at every turn to save money and create a perception of value that isn't really there.

This is the Wal-Mart of professional football teams.

Right now I say that is to high I am thinking dollar store.