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Old 03-06-2013, 11:02 PM  
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Old 03-07-2013, 12:08 AM   #16
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What are the legal ramifications of stopping a murder in progress?

Probably depends on the state you're in, no?

What if it was revealed that it was just mock murder?
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Old 03-07-2013, 12:11 AM   #17
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It's a ****ing shame that some people do nothing and run away.

Take your foot and kick it up his ****ing face people.
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Old 03-07-2013, 12:13 AM   #18
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Cops probably showed up and told them to **** off after the 10th 911 call.
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Old 03-07-2013, 12:13 AM   #19
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It's a ****ing shame that some people do nothing and run away.

Take your foot and kick it up his ****ing face people.
**** that.

I'm not risking my life for a stranger.

Shit, for all you know that could be self defense.

Best to get the **** out of there.
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Old 03-07-2013, 12:29 AM   #20
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It's a ****ing shame that some people do nothing and run away.

Take your foot and kick it up his ****ing face people.
Eh, yes and no.

If you're just standing there and you see an 'opponent' that you know is a cold-blooded killer, well that's a pretty damn important piece of information - that this person is capable of and willing to kill.

Now let's say you have children at home. A wife. You're going to have a moment where you ask yourself if you're willing to risk leaving them on their own to try to save a stranger.

It's a pretty damn tough question at that point, is it not?

If I get stabbed and die, my wife makes good money and is good looking. Oh, and I'm insured for quite a damn bit, so she'll take her massive heap of cash and probably do a hell of a lot better than me within 9 months. So yeah, I'd risk it.

But if I had kids...man, that's a tough question. My obligation to them as a father is a hell of a lot greater than my obligation to this poor schlub on the elevator.

This stuff is deeper than we make it.
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Old 03-07-2013, 12:31 AM   #21
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For all anyone knows you're saving the life of someone who might be the next Hitler so...yeah.
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Old 03-07-2013, 12:32 AM   #22
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Eh, yes and no.

If you're just standing there and you see an 'opponent' that you know is a cold-blooded killer, well that's a pretty damn important piece of information - that this person is capable of and willing to kill.

Now let's say you have children at home. A wife. You're going to have a moment where you ask yourself if you're willing to risk leaving them on their own to try to save a stranger.

It's a pretty damn tough question at that point, is it not?

If I get stabbed and die, my wife makes good money and is good looking. Oh, and I'm insured for quite a damn bit, so she'll take her massive heap of cash and probably do a hell of a lot better than me within 9 months. So yeah, I'd risk it.

But if I had kids...man, that's a tough question. My obligation to them as a father is a hell of a lot greater than my obligation to this poor schlub on the elevator.

This stuff is deeper than we make it.
I don't know if you have time to process all of that shit in that short period of time. It's really fight or flight.

But apparently there's also "stand there like a deer in the headlights" or "take a ****ing video of it."

Though I really think that last one was a setup. They didn't show the lead-in to that guy pulling out his phone, so I'm calling BS on that one.
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Old 03-07-2013, 12:33 AM   #23
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Old 03-07-2013, 12:43 AM   #24
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I don't know if you have time to process all of that shit in that short period of time. It's really fight or flight.

But apparently there's also "stand there like a deer in the headlights" or "take a ****ing video of it."

Though I really think that last one was a setup. They didn't show the lead-in to that guy pulling out his phone, so I'm calling BS on that one.
You're right, at least to a degree. But won't you concede that the moment most people have a kid they are fundamentally re-wired to a fairly large extent? And the same when they get married, though perhaps to a lesser degree?

I'm just saying that the 'fight or flight' calculus changes pretty substantially when you introduce actual adult responsibilities to it. When you're driving a car with your kid in it, you drive differently whether you realize it or not. Hell, I drive differently with my damn dogs in the car.

You're not going to just forget about that stuff in that fight or flight moment; your body and mind will absolutely remember it, even if your conscious self doesn't consider it.
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If it was a situation, (like in the vid), where it was some guy strangling another guy on the ground like that...

I would think that anyone could just kick the guy in the head as hard as they could, pull the victim away, run outside of the elevator and find something that could do some damage, beat the douchebag over the head with it, take the rope (or whatever the hell that was that he was using to strangle the guy with) hog-tie his ass, then call 911.

(Why yes, I do enjoy watching action movies, thanks for asking)

If he had a gun or a knife though... Eh, nope, see ya. Run away, dial 911.
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I wouldn't get involved in this particular case considering you wouldn't know if it was self defense or not. Just call 911. Although it does depend on the circumstance.
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I would probably try to do something. I love getting my ass kicked and kicking ass tho
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Old 03-07-2013, 01:29 AM   #30
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