Misc Installing a passenger side mirror?

**SAUTO** · 03-11-2013, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife

The labor guide is just that, a guide. It is not the Bible. Plenty of shops change labor rates on certain jobs, and some change it on all jobs. I choose to stick to it as closely as possible.
I can tell you that many times Mitchell will say 6 hours and All Data will say 8. Is one guy being dishonest because he uses All Data?

If that's the book you go by? Nope.

But to artificially inflate times just because is wrong IMO.

Obviously you feel the same or you wouldn't have asked where the gouge button was lol
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Exoter175 · 03-11-2013, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

If that's the book you go by? Nope.

But to artificially inflate times just because is wrong IMO.

Obviously you feel the same or you wouldn't have asked where the gouge button was lol
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Yet he knows that each piece of software has a different book time, and who is to say he hasn't used both or used one for a more "accurate" *higher paying* book time?

Nobody, that comes down to honesty.

Its one thing to use the highest book software, and adjust it by 10%, its another to use one of the lowest due to functionality, and adjust by 10%, keeping it lower than 2/3rds of the book times out there still.

Call me a bad man, because I'm going to price rape you at every corner!

**chiefforlife** · 03-11-2013, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

If that's the book you go by? Nope.

But to artificially inflate times just because is wrong IMO.

Obviously you feel the same or you wouldn't have asked where the gouge button was lol
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Yeah, thats why I just put it in my labor rate. Id rather be a little more up front about the price.

However I dont fault exorter for doing it his way. I know plenty of shop owners who do it that way and they are good guys.

**SAUTO** · 03-11-2013, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife

Yeah, thats why I just put it in my labor rate. Id rather be a little more up front about the price.

However I dont fault exorter for doing it his way. I know plenty of shop owners who do it that way and they are good guys.

I agree with the way you do it. Anything else just doesn't seem right. Why try to make the customer FEEL like they got a great deal? Why not just give them one?
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**Bwana** · 03-11-2013, 05:03 PM

**chiefforlife** · 03-11-2013, 05:09 PM

Did this thread just fizzle out?

I love talking to other shop owners and Techs...Darn.

Exoter175 · 03-11-2013, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

And if you knew half as much about ase as you claim I gave enough hints at what tests I didn't need to take to be master certified that you would know that I was legit.

Just like the ford brake system you didn't know, but you work on fords every day.

One person is full of shit and it damn sure is not me. Hell another poster that had met quite a few people here even stated what I have said is true in regards to my shop. He knows because he's been there multiple times and lives over an hour away.
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I didn't disagree with you, you were asking a specific question without giving me specific information. You can't fault the student for a terrible lesson.

I mean, if you want to battle wits over cars, I'll gladly oblige you, it shouldn't take long

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife

Yeah, thats why I just put it in my labor rate. Id rather be a little more up front about the price.

However I dont fault exorter for doing it his way. I know plenty of shop owners who do it that way and they are good guys.

There's a few ways to skin a rabbit, all that matters is that you aren't trying to cheat your customers.

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

All those degrees in auto aren't going to help much with that...

One of us has owned several businesses and they are no longer in operation.and is now trying to start another after going to work in a dealership to make more money. Lol

One of us has a successful business that works every day.

Which knows more about business?
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They are no longer in operation? Yeah, Calverts buys shops and closes them down. You sure do know your stuff.

One of us went to school for an automotive degree, one of us got one, one of us has more than 10 ASE certifications, and more than 4 different certifications through dealerships, including 3 training program certificates from Honda alone.

One of us ran a business so we could go through college to do this, one of us didn't.

I wonder, who is the one who got an education, started his own business from the ground up and ran profitably, closed it to get MORE education, started another business, ran it profitably, sold it to another company and took a higher paying job.

One of us actually started multiple successful businesses.

One of us actually started a business from the ground up.

Do you know who that person was?

It wasn't you.

Yet you think you know more about business than I do?

Dude, put the pipe down.....

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

I agree with the way you do it. Anything else just doesn't seem right. Why try to make the customer FEEL like they got a great deal? Why not just give them one?
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Who says you aren't giving the customer a great deal the other way?

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