PFT take on Albert and his twitter account

[-King-]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I think taking things like sacks allowed and then equating them to being the end all, be all measuring stick for ranking tackles is very, very short sighted.

Ok, what should we use? Cause Albert passes both the eye test and the stats test.
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[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by -King-

Ok, what should we use? Cause Albert passes both the eye test and the stats test.
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Quarterback hurries, run blocking. If the RT you're playing on the opposite end of is a sieve, the LT's numbers are going to be skewed.

I'm not saying Albert doesn't pass an eye test, I'm saying that I can't use strictly sacks to evaluate them.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Quarterback hurries, run blocking. If the RT you're playing on the opposite end of is a sieve, the LT's numbers are going to be skewed.

I'm not saying Albert doesn't pass an eye test, I'm saying that I can't use strictly sacks to evaluate them.

The effectiveness of the guy playing the adjacent guard spot probably factors in too.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by patteeu

The effectiveness of the guy playing the adjacent guard spot probably factors in too.

Very true.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Quarterback hurries, run blocking. If the RT you're playing on the opposite end of is a sieve, the LT's numbers are going to be skewed.

I'm not saying Albert doesn't pass an eye test, I'm saying that I can't use strictly sacks to evaluate them.

I cant find the one for 2012 but according to PFF, he was top 10 in QB pressures last year.


https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/02/20/2011-pass-blocking-efficiency-offensive-tackles/
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[patteeu]

Originally Posted by -King-

I cant find the one for 2012 but according to PFF, he was top 10 in QB pressures last year.


https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...nsive-tackles/
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One problem with both number of sacks allowed and number of pressures is that neither of them take into account that Albert was only a part-timer last year. You need to look at those measures on a per pass blocking snap basis to compare to other players (Albert was still pretty good on those two measures last year).

But that's still a fairly narrow view into Albert's effectiveness.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by patteeu

One problem with both number of sacks allowed and number of pressures is that neither of them take into account that Albert was only a part-timer last year. You need to look at those measures on a per pass blocking snap basis to compare to other players (Albert was still pretty good on those two measures last year).

But that's still a fairly narrow view into Albert's effectiveness.

And that's not even taking into consideration that he protected the two worst starting QB's in the league (he did.)

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Rausch

And that's not even taking into consideration that he protected the two worst starting QB's in the league (he did.)

And with a rookie LG next to him.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

And with a rookie LG next to him.

Who was ****ing 'turrible.

Just Turrible...

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Rausch

And that's not even taking into consideration that he protected the two worst starting QB's in the league (he did.)

Originally Posted by Pestilence

And with a rookie LG next to him.

Both of those things are true, but excuses don't make a strong case that Albert is special as opposed to merely above average.

[B14ckmon]

Originally Posted by Rausch

And that's not even taking into consideration that he protected the two worst starting QB's in the league (he did.)

Or the fact that the Chiefs were towards the BOTTOM in the league in passing attempts and towards the TOP in rushing attempts.

Your lack of passing offense is making you overrate Albert.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by B14ckmon

Or the fact that the Chiefs were towards the BOTTOM in the league in passing attempts and towards the TOP in rushing attempts.

Your lack of passing offense is making you overrate Albert.

Not when our QBs hold the ball twice as long.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by patteeu

One problem with both number of sacks allowed and number of pressures is that neither of them take into account that Albert was only a part-timer last year. You need to look at those measures on a per pass blocking snap basis to compare to other players (Albert was still pretty good on those two measures last year).

But that's still a fairly narrow view into Albert's effectiveness.

Its not that hard to find snaps played stats. That link I posted gave the number of pass block snaps. Albert gave up 24 pressures on 545 pass blocks.
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[patteeu]

Originally Posted by -King-

Its not that hard to find snaps played stats. That link I posted gave the number of pass block snaps. Albert gave up 24 pressures on 545 pass blocks.
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If it's not that hard, why didn't you give us a per snap stat that was meaningful instead of going with the less meaningful raw data?

It's not that hard for me to find it because I have a PFF subscription, but it's pretty hard for most people to pull that stuff together to get a good idea of how Albert's season compares to other LTs. But even on PFF, it's not all that easy to sort LTs by sacks allowed per snap.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by patteeu

If it's not that hard, why didn't you give us a per snap stat that was meaningful instead of going with the less meaningful raw data?

It's not that hard for me to find it because I have a PFF subscription, but it's pretty hard for most people to pull that stuff together to get a good idea of how Albert's season compares to other LTs. But even on PFF, it's not all that easy to sort LTs by sacks allowed per snap.

Wtf? The percentages are in that link I posted.
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