Chiefs Chiefs to sign Tyler Bray - Page 34

58-4ever · 04-27-2013, 08:56 PM

per Adam Schefter

Cannibal · 04-28-2013, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Hoping he gets coached up and sits for a couple years until he's ready.

Hopefully Reid can get him to pull his head out of his ass.

Mother****erJones · 04-28-2013, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannibal

Hopefully Reid can get him to pull his head out of his ass.

We will see

Cannibal · 04-28-2013, 10:47 AM

Being undrafted should send a message.

Chiefshrink · 04-28-2013, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by cockeyes

Cutler never matured and was only an average to above average QB in Denver and was subsequently trade for two first round picks, basically still on his potential.

With a guy like Bray you don't need to turn him all the way into a finished product, but if he gets some playing time and shows improvement in his footwork, throwing motion, football smarts - all things that can be coached - he could bring a return.

We don't lose anything but Stanzi.

Understand I'm not against this signing whatsoever and actually like this signing because we didn't waste a pick. But knowing this kid is a very immature 'knucklehead' to the point of 254 picks later 'knucklehead' I would have been pissed had we spent a pick on him. I truly do hope this kid pans out and yes you are correct he doesn't have be the perfect package in a QB 'initially' BUT in the long run to win a SB he damn near has to be. Just saying !!

chiefscafan · 04-28-2013, 10:49 AM

Watch gruden camp peaks and valleys so true

I love this quote and this is what gives me hope

"I want to win I hate to lose". At least he has a fighting spirit.

Mr. Laz · 04-28-2013, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannibal

Being undrafted should send a message.

about the first thing they should do is have a long conversation, starting with the question 'why do you think you went undrafted?'

They need to force him to admit that being an douche that doesn't take coaching is going to cost him everything if he doesn't change.

Chiefshrink · 04-28-2013, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint

In the British comedy Red Dwarf, a cat got turned in to a human being. That is what that picture looks like too me. A former cat, human.

Cannibal · 04-28-2013, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

about the first they do should be have a long conversation starting with the question 'why do you think you went undrafted?'

They need to force him to admit that being an douche that doesn't take coaching is going to cost him everything if he doesn't change.

Hopefully he's not the type that never grows up.

rico · 04-28-2013, 10:57 AM

What is considered the better QB draft class? 2013 or 2014? Honest question.

I ask because I, like many of you, browsed through numerous mock drafts this year. Tons of them. And I didn't limit myself to 2013. I checked out my share of 2014 mock drafts as well...out of boredom.

I began checking these out when it was widely speculated that Bray would not enter the draft until 2014. One thing that I found interesting was that if Tyler Bray were included in a 2013 mock draft, he'd generally be projected as being a mid-to-late round pick and there would be a blurb stating, "major character concerns, yada, yada, yabba-dabba-doo." In the 2014 mock drafts he was included in, often times generated by the SAME people who had him projected as mid-to-late in 2013, he was projected to go 1,2 or 3 overall by most of them. And the majority of them would write a blurb, "Bray will have another year of college under his belt to mature and eliminate character concerns and should be the top prospect in 2014, yada, yada, yabba-dabba-doo." I don't think I saw a 2014 mock draft that consisted of Bray, in which he was projected anywhere below the top 5 overall....and my sample size wasn't small...I read many of them.

I want to know what....in.....the......hell....is up with that shit? I thought the 2013 QB draft class was "extremely weak?" Is 2014 supposed to be worse? Shit just doesn't add up.

I just think it's odd that he was generally considered a mid-to-late round pick in one of the "weakest" QB draft classes, but generally considered an elite QB prospect for the 2014 draft...with both years' "blurbs" about him referencing his character concerns. I mean seriously, would that extra year have made THAT much of a difference? I don't get it....

Lol...we got him as an UDFA this year...I don't care what anyone says, considering that we lost nothing by acquiring him, this signing has POTENTIAL of being a freaking steal. Yeah he's presumably gonna have a few sword-fights with his own personal dumb-stick that seems to get the best of him at times, but I don't care. Hopefully his drop into UDFA will humble him a bit and become the determining factor that prompts him to make a legit effort to become more mature. I hope he takes an initiative to actively learn and plays with a chip on his shoulder. I've met plenty of dumbass 21 year old kids like Tyler who when in a transitional phases of their lives, unexpectedly stepped up and made abrupt 180's in terms of their attitudes and overall approach to life. I don't know Bray personally, so I have no reason to believe that he doesn't have a chance to overcome his dumbassery. He's only twenty-freaking one years old, for crying out loud. God, at 30 years old now, I cringe when I think about how crazy, impulsive and irresponsible I was at that age. I'm not like that anymore...my transitional phase in life was having kids. Hopefully one of his transitional phases in life is being in the NFL and trying to GET PAID someday if he ever earns a chance to play and performs well.

Sure-Oz · 04-28-2013, 10:59 AM

No one should have a problem with this signing at all...

Chiefs have everything to gain

keg in kc · 04-28-2013, 11:03 AM

Going undrafted was potentially the best thing that could have happened to him. As well as being a massive hit to the wallet, it has to be a huge hit to the ego of a guy who's probably been told that he walks on water for most of his life and had opportunities handed to him since an early age. And maybe even bigger than that is the fact that there's a Sword of Damocles hanging over him as an undrafted player that just wouldn't exist if he'd been a draft pick.

chiefscafan · 04-28-2013, 11:05 AM

Boom or bust guy

Chiefshrink · 04-28-2013, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan

I love this quote and this is what gives me hope

"I want to win I hate to lose". At least he has a fighting spirit.

And the key will be when he can take this quote to the next level of emotional maturity, meaning he loves to see the team win and he hates to see the team lose because then at that point it becomes about team and not about him

Chiefshrink · 04-28-2013, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Going undrafted was potentially the best thing that could have happened to him. As well as being a massive hit to the wallet, it has to be a huge hit to the ego of a guy who's probably been told that he walks on water for most of his life and had opportunities handed to him since an early age. And maybe even bigger than that is the fact that there's a Sword of Damocles hanging over him as an undrafted player that just wouldn't exist if he'd been a draft pick.

Amen brother

**wazu** · 04-28-2013, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan

Boom or bust guy

Undrafted free agents don't "bust". They just fade away.

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rico ON CP YOU’RE SOMEBODY’S BITCH! Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Da SEI Casino cash: $2294809	What is considered the better QB draft class? 2013 or 2014? Honest question. I ask because I, like many of you, browsed through numerous mock drafts this year. Tons of them. And I didn't limit myself to 2013. I checked out my share of 2014 mock drafts as well...out of boredom. I began checking these out when it was widely speculated that Bray would not enter the draft until 2014. One thing that I found interesting was that if Tyler Bray were included in a 2013 mock draft, he'd generally be projected as being a mid-to-late round pick and there would be a blurb stating, "major character concerns, yada, yada, yabba-dabba-doo." In the 2014 mock drafts he was included in, often times generated by the SAME people who had him projected as mid-to-late in 2013, he was projected to go 1,2 or 3 overall by most of them. And the majority of them would write a blurb, "Bray will have another year of college under his belt to mature and eliminate character concerns and should be the top prospect in 2014, yada, yada, yabba-dabba-doo." I don't think I saw a 2014 mock draft that consisted of Bray, in which he was projected anywhere below the top 5 overall....and my sample size wasn't small...I read many of them. I want to know what....in.....the......hell....is up with that shit? I thought the 2013 QB draft class was "extremely weak?" Is 2014 supposed to be worse? Shit just doesn't add up. I just think it's odd that he was generally considered a mid-to-late round pick in one of the "weakest" QB draft classes, but generally considered an elite QB prospect for the 2014 draft...with both years' "blurbs" about him referencing his character concerns. I mean seriously, would that extra year have made THAT much of a difference? I don't get it.... Lol...we got him as an UDFA this year...I don't care what anyone says, considering that we lost nothing by acquiring him, this signing has POTENTIAL of being a freaking steal. Yeah he's presumably gonna have a few sword-fights with his own personal dumb-stick that seems to get the best of him at times, but I don't care. Hopefully his drop into UDFA will humble him a bit and become the determining factor that prompts him to make a legit effort to become more mature. I hope he takes an initiative to actively learn and plays with a chip on his shoulder. I've met plenty of dumbass 21 year old kids like Tyler who when in a transitional phases of their lives, unexpectedly stepped up and made abrupt 180's in terms of their attitudes and overall approach to life. I don't know Bray personally, so I have no reason to believe that he doesn't have a chance to overcome his dumbassery. He's only twenty-freaking one years old, for crying out loud. God, at 30 years old now, I cringe when I think about how crazy, impulsive and irresponsible I was at that age. I'm not like that anymore...my transitional phase in life was having kids. Hopefully one of his transitional phases in life is being in the NFL and trying to GET PAID someday if he ever earns a chance to play and performs well.
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