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Old 04-27-2013, 11:33 PM  
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we have 2"franchise" LTs
so what the **** do we do with them

train fisher and trade albert?

any bright ideas
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:16 PM   #76
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Not that I disagree, but Will Shields didn't seem to have any trouble going from right to left in the days when he was our backup LT. Fisher's already played everywhere on the line at CMU so I doubt his growth will be stunted in any way. Anyway, I can't speak for anybody else, but I'm not thinking in terms of "rewarding" Albert, I'm just thinking in terms of fielding the best possible line. Personally, I think you need to throw all emotion out the window, stop thinking in terms of "screw Branden Albert, he's not a team player", understand that every angle of the situation between Albert and the Chiefs is business, and think in terms of putting the best unit on the field.
It's not emotional for me. I just don't see any point in having a make shift one year line. We KNOW Albert isn't the long term solution at LT so it makes far more sense to play the players we know we will have for many years in the positions we project them to be at years from now. I agree that Fisher would be fine at RT but there is no way in hell it doesn't set him back (at least a little) in his development as our LTOTF.

Best case is to sign Albert long term as LG or find someone to take him off our hands. I have serious doubts he would be an effective RT but he probably be a pro-bowl LG.
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:19 PM   #77
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Albert
Schwartz
Hudson
Asomoah
Fisher

imo right now this is the best line we have

rumor has that Allen is going to work at tackle so he and Stephenson would be our backups at OT

Kush,matteson,lilja? as backups in the middle

I imagine Allen will work at guard as well

depth isn't what you would hope but i don't know anything about Kush
So you are super happy with the Alex Smith signing? Because RIGHT NOW he is by far the best QB we could have for next year.

Unless you think we are winning the Superbowl next year there is ZERO reason to play a makeshift temporary line.
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:20 PM   #78
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:25 PM   #79
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It's not emotional for me. I just don't see any point in having a make shift one year line. We KNOW Albert isn't the long term solution at LT so it makes far more sense to play the players we know we will have for many years in the positions we project them to be at years from now. I agree that Fisher would be fine at RT but there is no way in hell it doesn't set him back (at least a little) in his development as our LTOTF.
I think you're worried too much. While it's his rookie year and not later into his career, this is to me a lot like when Tait switched to the right side in '02. He wasn't really a right tackle, and he went straight back to the left side for the Bears the following year, but at that time it's what made the most sense for the team. That was also, coincidentally, probably the best line I've ever seen. I think this is a similiar situation, though obviously different in several ways (e.g. no Roaf).

And I think Fisher would be more than 'fine' at RT. I think he could be dominant there, far and away better than anyone else we have. That's part of my logic. I think Albert on the left side and him on the right is significantly better overall than Fisher on the left side, albert inside and anybody else we have on the right.
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:26 PM   #80
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So you are super happy with the Alex Smith signing? Because RIGHT NOW he is by far the best QB we could have for next year.

Unless you think we are winning the Superbowl next year there is ZERO reason to play a makeshift temporary line.
so why have any of these players on the roster?

I mean unless they are going to be super bowl ready after Alex Smith is gone in 2 years, just cut them all and go 0-16.

better yet, just forfeit the entire season and wait until we draft again next year because we are dooooooooooooooooooomed.


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so why have any of these players on the roster?

I mean unless they are going to be super bowl caliber after Alex Smith is gone in 2 years, just cut them all and go 0-16.

better yet, just forfeit the entire season and wait until we draft again next year because we are dooooooooooooooooooomed.


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I think what he's suggesting, and that I agree with, is that you put the line out there that you think has the chance to develop and grow together, and have them playing at their peak when the Chiefs do get the QB that can lead them to a SB.

The only problem with that thought process is that the Chiefs will never get that QB.
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:29 PM   #82
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I think you're worried too much. While it's his rookie year and not later into his career, this is to me a lot like when Tait switched to the right side in '02. He wasn't really a right tackle, and he went straight back to the left side for the Bears the following year, but at that time it's what made the most sense for the team. That was also, coincidentally, probably the best line I've ever seen. I think this is a similiar situation, though obviously different in several ways (e.g. no Roaf).

And I think Fisher would be more than 'fine' at RT. I think he could be dominant there, far and away better than anyone else we have. That's part of my logic. I think Albert on the left side and him on the right is significantly better overall than Fisher on the left side, albert inside and anybody else we have on the right.
Tait moving around after years in the league is far different from a rookie's first exposure to the speed of the NFL coming from the "wrong" side. It can (not saying it will, but CAN) seriously screw up his development. Just ask Tyron Smith. Fisher does have the advantage of being smarter than most so it may not be an issue but why risk it when signing Albert long term at LG or trading him away will allow us money to sign a true RT like Clabo.
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:31 PM   #83
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so why have any of these players on the roster?

I mean unless they are going to be super bowl ready after Alex Smith is gone in 2 years, just cut them all and go 0-16.

better yet, just forfeit the entire season and wait until we draft again next year because we are dooooooooooooooooooomed.


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This is an incredibly stupid post.. even in general CP terms... just incredibly stupid. You're better than this. Try again.
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:32 PM   #84
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Tait moving around after years in the league is far different from a rookie's first exposure to the speed of the NFL coming from the "wrong" side. It can (not saying it will, but CAN) seriously screw up his development. Just ask Tyron Smith. Fisher does have the advantage of being smarter than most so it may not be an issue but why risk it when signing Albert long term at LG or trading him away will allow us money to sign a true RT like Clabo.
I hope they can trade Albert. I'm just talking in terms of the current realities of the roster...

I just don't think Fisher would struggle with it if we're stuck with them both.
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We need to keep Albert at LT, dumbasses.

No way I want a rookie protecting Alex Smith's blindside.

We need to go with the established veteran who has allowed less pressure than Duane Brown the last two seasons. You can't pay enough for that kind of quality protection.
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I think what he's suggesting, and that I agree with, is that you put the line out there that you think has the chance to develop and grow together, and have them playing at their peak when the Chiefs do get the QB that can lead them to a SB.

The only problem with that thought process is that the Chiefs will never get that QB.
I understand and we are with the exception of Brandon Albert.

It's a unique and temporary situation

People are still pissed about taking an OT and 1.1 and it's making them adamant about Fisher being at LT 'no matter what the cost,dammit'. Putting Fisher at RT for even a single snap makes them even more angry about the pick.

get over it
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I think what he's suggesting, and that I agree with, is that you put the line out there that you think has the chance to develop and grow together, and have them playing at their peak when the Chiefs do get the QB that can lead them to a SB.

The only problem with that thought process is that the Chiefs will never get that QB.
100% agree except I'm holding out hope on the QB thing..

If you can sign Albert long term at LG you will have plenty of space to sign a guy like Clabo at RT and all of a sudden you have a killer line that you don;t need to worry about for years. OR you can play Fisher at RT and risk screwing him up like Tyron Smith and you get the fun of reshuffling the line in a year. Just makes zero ****ing sense unless you are in some sort of desperate win now mode.
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This is an incredibly stupid post.. even in general CP terms... just incredibly stupid. You're better than this. Try again.
one stupid post in response to another stupid post

Your petulant and idiotic declaration that this year basically doesn't matter because Alex Smith sucks is beyond 'dumbass'.
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I think what he's suggesting, and that I agree with, is that you put the line out there that you think has the chance to develop and grow together, and have them playing at their peak when the Chiefs do get the QB that can lead them to a SB.

The only problem with that thought process is that the Chiefs will never get that QB.
The people running the team believe we have have that QB. Scary thought.
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We need to keep Albert at LT, dumbasses.

No way I want a rookie protecting Alex Smith's blindside.

We need to go with the established veteran who has allowed less pressure than Duane Brown the last two seasons. You can't pay enough for that kind of quality protection.
A rookie? yes, like this is some 4th round nobody... IT'S THE #1 PLAYER IN THE DRAFT. You start him at LT and unless he busts horribly you keep him there.

I hope to God our team isn't as ****ing stupid as the Cowboys...
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