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If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.
A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.
So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way. Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...#ixzz2SWCd8Gea |
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05-14-2013, 10:09 AM | #1861 | |
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But lets be real here. No 2nd round QB has ever been better than Alex Smith... |
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05-14-2013, 10:19 AM | #1862 |
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The jury is out on Matt Flynn. He only needs to be a mediocre starting QB to make that trade a steal compared to 2nd rounders for Alex.
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05-14-2013, 10:22 AM | #1863 | |
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I hear people saying, just keep taking QBs in the first round until you hit. That's a sure way to lose your job, and to suck. So, they take Geno this year, they start him most likely he'll struggle, so take another next year. Do you start the rookie, or give Geno another year? So, you've got two rookie first round QBs. If Geno is still struggling a bit, do you put in the other? Maybe he struggles too. So, the next year you take another. Now you've got three first round draft pick QBs, two have looked good and bad at times, you could try to trade one, but they haven't impressed enough to get much back, but it doesn't really concern you anymore, because you just got fired. |
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05-14-2013, 10:25 AM | #1864 | |
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2) Continually trading for backups is a surefire way to keep your job and be successful, as the Chiefs have shown. |
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05-14-2013, 10:41 AM | #1865 | |
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He didn't win it.
Here is what Greg Cossell wrote about Alex's unwillingness to make throws from a clean pocket. Quote:
http://nflfilms.nfl.com/2012/01/24/c...e-a-week-made/ |
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05-14-2013, 10:49 AM | #1866 |
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Cliffs notes from Cossell's excerpts I posted above:
"The bottom line was this: Smith was reluctant to let it loose on routes and throws that were not only well designed, but were open. They were primary reads. No progressions were involved. "Michael Crabtree ran a sail route (kind of a flattened corner route). He was wide open. Smith, with no pressure in the pocket, did not pull the trigger." "The double move froze Corey Webster, and Williams raced by him. The design of the play worked. Smith overthrew Williams by 5 yards. A good throw, and it was a touchdown. An adequate throw, and it was still a 50 yard gain. This was another missed opportunity." "Delanie Walker, from his line of scrimmage tight end position, ran by a slipping Webster. The concept worked to perfection. Walker screamed down the sideline. Smith again did not pull the trigger from a clean pocket. He ended up getting sacked for a 7 yard loss". |
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05-14-2013, 10:50 AM | #1867 |
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^ you can pick 4 bad decisions or plays from every QB in every game.
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05-14-2013, 10:54 AM | #1868 | |
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05-14-2013, 10:59 AM | #1869 | |
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That is a guiding philosophy, an MO, not 4 isolated bad decisions. That is Alex Smith to a tee. No risk, no reward. Alex Smith is risk averse and does not make the required throws at the required times to win the big games.The single glaring exception is the Saints NFCD game. |
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05-14-2013, 11:15 AM | #1870 | |
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05-14-2013, 11:19 AM | #1871 | |
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He completed 1 of 9 passes to his wide receivers. 12 for 26 passing, 46% completion. Wow, great game! Eli is not elite, but he has the balls to make the risky throw when the risk/reward ratio demands it. That is why Eli has 2 super bowl rings and Alex was benched during a super bowl run. Alex Smith WILL NOT make the risky throw when the potential reward requires it. All great QBs want to put the game on their shoulders and will take that risk. Alex will not take that risk. |
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05-14-2013, 11:22 AM | #1872 | |
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05-14-2013, 11:22 AM | #1873 | |
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05-14-2013, 11:26 AM | #1874 |
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Chiefs fans and ownership hate risk. Ergo, Alex "short-timer" Smith was the only option available. Plus, you get the added True Fan bonus of drafting a fatty high! Combine all this with a good ol' 9-7 followed by the obligatory wild card ass-whipping, and you've just experienced an absolute nirvana of an offseason and regular season for the loyal red and gold maroons.
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05-14-2013, 11:27 AM | #1875 | |
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I don't know if that is because he has never been very accurate, or due to loss of confidence or ability from the shoulder injury, or just an innate aversion to risk. He played the short game in college and rarely went down field. And that is how he plays as a pro. He will throw deep to an isolated receiver who is wide open, especially as the primary read. Otherwise, he refuses to risk an interception throwing to a receiver down field if a DB is in the proximity. |
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