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**Tribal Warfare** · 05-16-2013, 02:23 PM

Chiefs searching for clear-cut second receiver alongside Dwayne Bowe
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
The signature moment for a Chiefs wide receiver during offseason practice happened this week when coach Andy Reid chewed out Jon Baldwin for being lackadaisical in getting to the line of scrimmage before a play.

It’s early, but that can’t be a positive sign for the Chiefs as they work to develop one or more receivers capable of helping Dwayne Bowe boost their passing game. Baldwin is the other starter with Bowe and leads the list of candidates, but hasn’t yet emerged as the dominant offseason player he was last season before faltering when the games started.

The Chiefs signed Donnie Avery, who caught 60 passes for the Colts last season, but he has mostly been a backup. Avery turned an ankle in practice on Tuesday and his participation has been limited since.

Other candidates are Dexter McCluster, who caught a career-high 52 passes last season, veteran Terrance Copper and a group of developmental players trying to establish themselves in the NFL, including Devon Wylie, a fourth-round draft pick last year.

But McCluster has provided the Chiefs few big plays since his arrival in 2010, Copper is a journeyman valued mainly for his special-teams ability and Wylie showed little in the playing time he received late last season.

Reid suggested the Chiefs might mix and match receivers to try to maximize their abilities.

“I don’t mind playing a bunch of wide receivers,” Reid said. “That’s what you do to keep them fresh.

“We’ve got a variety. We’ve got some speed guys. We’ve got some smaller, quick guys. We’ve got big, strong guys and kind of those intermediate guys and that’s OK. We’ll work to all their strengths and allow them to make plays.’’

Baldwin, the Chiefs’ first-round draft pick in 2011, was a major disappointment last season. He repeatedly made impressive catches during offseason work, leading to hopes he would have a breakthrough season.

He didn’t. Baldwin caught just 20 passes, one for a touchdown.

Baldwin was drafted by the Chiefs when their general manager was Scott ***** and coach was Todd Haley. Both are gone, so this season may be Baldwin’s last chance to establish himself with the Chiefs.

“That’s always for everybody,’’ he said. “It doesn’t matter, the coaching staff. You know you’ve got to go and prove it every year. You can’t take any steps backward and think you’ve made it. You’ve just got to continue to work.

“You’ve just got to make steps forward. Coach Reid and (receivers coach David) Culley, those guys are going to work us all hard, going to coach me up pretty hard and I’m looking forward to getting out there and getting the opportunity this year.’’

Perhaps mindful of how Baldwin’s 2012 season turned out, nobody has predicted he will have a breakout year this time. But the Chiefs don’t appear ready to give up on the possibility, either.

“He’s more consistent in his route running,’’ Bowe said. “He’s going to be better because we’ve got a better coach and we’ve got a great quarterback and he’s got a guy like me that’s going to bring him along.’’

The Chiefs signed Avery to be the deep threat they otherwise lacked. The 60 receptions he has last season were a career high.

“I can go over the top and get some yards after the catch,’’ Avery said. “But whatever the coaches dial up, I’ll be happy to do. If it’s going deep, I’ll go deep. If it’s running a slant, I’ll run a slant. Andy Reid runs the show and his mindset is to attack, attack, attack. That’s what we’re doing.

“This is a good group of receivers. Everybody has their attributes. We’ve just got to use them all. Every game somebody is going to be upset because they didn’t get enough touches.’’

The Chiefs for now can only hope that’s the case. New Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith is familiar with the arrangement of receivers where the top player, in this case Bowe, stands out among the group.

Smith, acquired in March in a trade with San Francisco, last year threw to Michael Crabtree, who caught 85 passes and scored nine touchdowns. The 49ers’ second-leading receiver was Mario Manningham, who has 42 catches and one touchdown.

“We’ve got a big group, a lot of talent, a lot of guys with a lot of strengths is really what jumps out at you at first,’’ Smith said. “For right now, we’re all just trying to pick up the offense, get on the same page, work on timing.’’

Saccopoo · 05-16-2013, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Branden Albert's Huge Balls

Basically.

He's the most embarrassing thing that's happened to this franchise ever.

EVER.

Nothing tops his fail.

I beg to differ...

mcaj22 · 05-16-2013, 11:10 PM

didnt someone on here say one of their sources said a guy like Mark Donovan had to apologize to employees for the last four years?

kind of like probably to save face?

Or did he do that to the media or something. I forget but it's hilarious to hear that hes now like "HEY SORRY ABOUT SCOOTER, I JUST PUT ON A FRONT SO I COULD WORK WITH HIM ALL IS WELL NOW"

Sorter · 05-16-2013, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

What?

Is this a real thing?

How do we know this?

Holy balls.

It's a real thing. TBG has said that nearly word for word.

**buddha** · 05-16-2013, 11:43 PM

Baldwin BLOWS...he has shown nothing.

For those of you who feel otherwise, please offer a shred of evidence of his worth other than, "he sure looks good in practice...yuck, yuck, yuck..."

Sorter · 05-16-2013, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by buddha

Baldwin BLOWS...he has shown nothing.

For those of you who feel otherwise, please offer a shred of evidence of his worth other than, "he sure looks good in practice...yuck, yuck, yuck..."

He's fairly competent as a blocker.

**ShortRoundChief** · 05-17-2013, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by buddha

Baldwin BLOWS...he has shown nothing.

For those of you who feel otherwise, please offer a shred of evidence of his worth other than, "he sure looks good in practice...yuck, yuck, yuck..."

This one time he caught this one ball in a play that didn't count.

That makes him good.

Rasputin · 05-17-2013, 07:20 AM

I don't even think we could get a 3rd rounder for Baldwin in on a trade. It would be a tough sell to get anything better than that out of him.

Unless he does well in preseason but then if he does well why would we get rid of him? I doubt he does that good so I'd get what we can out of him and move on.

The less Pioli baggage the have the better.

Thig Lyfe · 05-17-2013, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Baldwin can't be a biggger fail than Cassel. Sure, we took Baldwin over Kaepernick, but we took Baldwin BECAUSE OF CASSEL.

Cassel is the biggest dick sucking failure of all time.

Six touchdowns. 21 turnovers.

**** MATT CASSELL ALWAYS FOREVER

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RunKC · 05-17-2013, 10:53 AM

Danny Parkins was close to the WR drills and overheard Reid yelling at Baldwin.

He said "I care more about the route than the speed of the route."

-King- · 05-17-2013, 10:56 AM

Yeah he rounds the shit out of his routes. That's what happens when you have slow feet.
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**MahiMike** · 05-17-2013, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by buddha

Baldwin BLOWS...he has shown nothing.

For those of you who feel otherwise, please offer a shred of evidence of his worth other than, "he sure looks good in practice...yuck, yuck, yuck..."

He's tall and he cleans up nice?

**notorious** · 05-17-2013, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Yeah he rounds the shit out of his routes. That's what happens when you have slow feet.
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In his highlight reels from college his feet are slower than a sloth's.

Pioli is a huge dipshit.

**notorious** · 05-17-2013, 11:20 AM

YES.

Here is the draft thread when Baldwin was drafted. Almost everyone shoud eat shit.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...ow#post7602658

mcaj22 · 05-17-2013, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

YES.

Here is the draft thread when Baldwin was drafted. Almost everyone shoud eat shit.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...ow#post7602658

lol, that thread is hilarious, especially:

SI_PeterKing Peter King
26. KC, Jonathan Baldwin, WR, Pitt. I smell a short-termer in KC in Bowe.

chiefzilla1501 · 05-17-2013, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Yeah he rounds the shit out of his routes. That's what happens when you have slow feet.
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When DJ and bowe were in the doghouse, they were pissed off. And they upped their game.

Baldwin has been losing playing time. Yet, he hasn't progressed one bit. If a guy doesn't get pissed off about losing playing time, that tells you a lot about his character. I wouldn't be upset if we cut Baldwin tomorrow.

05-16-2013, 02:23 PM
Tribal Warfare Man of Culture Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $-2767187	Teicher:Chiefs searching for clear-cut second receiver alongside Dwayne Bowe Chiefs searching for clear-cut second receiver alongside Dwayne Bowe By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star The signature moment for a Chiefs wide receiver during offseason practice happened this week when coach Andy Reid chewed out Jon Baldwin for being lackadaisical in getting to the line of scrimmage before a play. It’s early, but that can’t be a positive sign for the Chiefs as they work to develop one or more receivers capable of helping Dwayne Bowe boost their passing game. Baldwin is the other starter with Bowe and leads the list of candidates, but hasn’t yet emerged as the dominant offseason player he was last season before faltering when the games started. The Chiefs signed Donnie Avery, who caught 60 passes for the Colts last season, but he has mostly been a backup. Avery turned an ankle in practice on Tuesday and his participation has been limited since. Other candidates are Dexter McCluster, who caught a career-high 52 passes last season, veteran Terrance Copper and a group of developmental players trying to establish themselves in the NFL, including Devon Wylie, a fourth-round draft pick last year. But McCluster has provided the Chiefs few big plays since his arrival in 2010, Copper is a journeyman valued mainly for his special-teams ability and Wylie showed little in the playing time he received late last season. Reid suggested the Chiefs might mix and match receivers to try to maximize their abilities. “I don’t mind playing a bunch of wide receivers,” Reid said. “That’s what you do to keep them fresh. “We’ve got a variety. We’ve got some speed guys. We’ve got some smaller, quick guys. We’ve got big, strong guys and kind of those intermediate guys and that’s OK. We’ll work to all their strengths and allow them to make plays.’’ Baldwin, the Chiefs’ first-round draft pick in 2011, was a major disappointment last season. He repeatedly made impressive catches during offseason work, leading to hopes he would have a breakthrough season. He didn’t. Baldwin caught just 20 passes, one for a touchdown. Baldwin was drafted by the Chiefs when their general manager was Scott ***** and coach was Todd Haley. Both are gone, so this season may be Baldwin’s last chance to establish himself with the Chiefs. “That’s always for everybody,’’ he said. “It doesn’t matter, the coaching staff. You know you’ve got to go and prove it every year. You can’t take any steps backward and think you’ve made it. You’ve just got to continue to work. “You’ve just got to make steps forward. Coach Reid and (receivers coach David) Culley, those guys are going to work us all hard, going to coach me up pretty hard and I’m looking forward to getting out there and getting the opportunity this year.’’ Perhaps mindful of how Baldwin’s 2012 season turned out, nobody has predicted he will have a breakout year this time. But the Chiefs don’t appear ready to give up on the possibility, either. “He’s more consistent in his route running,’’ Bowe said. “He’s going to be better because we’ve got a better coach and we’ve got a great quarterback and he’s got a guy like me that’s going to bring him along.’’ The Chiefs signed Avery to be the deep threat they otherwise lacked. The 60 receptions he has last season were a career high. “I can go over the top and get some yards after the catch,’’ Avery said. “But whatever the coaches dial up, I’ll be happy to do. If it’s going deep, I’ll go deep. If it’s running a slant, I’ll run a slant. Andy Reid runs the show and his mindset is to attack, attack, attack. That’s what we’re doing. “This is a good group of receivers. Everybody has their attributes. We’ve just got to use them all. Every game somebody is going to be upset because they didn’t get enough touches.’’ The Chiefs for now can only hope that’s the case. New Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith is familiar with the arrangement of receivers where the top player, in this case Bowe, stands out among the group. Smith, acquired in March in a trade with San Francisco, last year threw to Michael Crabtree, who caught 85 passes and scored nine touchdowns. The 49ers’ second-leading receiver was Mario Manningham, who has 42 catches and one touchdown. “We’ve got a big group, a lot of talent, a lot of guys with a lot of strengths is really what jumps out at you at first,’’ Smith said. “For right now, we’re all just trying to pick up the offense, get on the same page, work on timing.’’
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buddha You may think you know... Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: California Casino cash: $10006184	Baldwin BLOWS...he has shown nothing. For those of you who feel otherwise, please offer a shred of evidence of his worth other than, "he sure looks good in practice...yuck, yuck, yuck..."
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Rasputin Tip of the hat LIV Champs Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ks Casino cash: $235421	I don't even think we could get a 3rd rounder for Baldwin in on a trade. It would be a tough sell to get anything better than that out of him. Unless he does well in preseason but then if he does well why would we get rid of him? I doubt he does that good so I'd get what we can out of him and move on. The less Pioli baggage the have the better. __________________ "Those who don't believe in magic will never find it"
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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1410389	Danny Parkins was close to the WR drills and overheard Reid yelling at Baldwin. He said "I care more about the route than the speed of the route." __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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notorious Supporter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Who knows? Casino cash: $-744116	YES. Here is the draft thread when Baldwin was drafted. Almost everyone shoud eat shit. http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...ow#post7602658 Last edited by notorious; 05-17-2013 at 11:25 AM..
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