Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 368

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

tk13 · 06-06-2013, 11:15 PM

Yasiel Puig has played 4 games and would be 4th on the Royals in HR.

KevB · 06-07-2013, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Tytanium

He did, he underwent UCL reconstruction over a year ago. He just got promoted to AAA and will probably spend a month or so there. Ventura starts for the Stormchasers tonight though(!).

Duffy and Ventura in a race to see who gets to replace Wade Davis.

SPchief · 06-07-2013, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KevB

Duffy and Ventura in a race to see who gets to replace Wade Davis.

Not gonna happen. It's gonna be a log jam. Someone is getting traded and it won't be Davis. They'll probably hold Ventura down until: A. We're out of the race completely or B. If we drag ourselves back into it, he'll be brought up for the pen. Duffy on the other hand, if his volocity keeps up in Omaha, I could see them sending Davis down (I think he still has an option left)

penbrook · 06-07-2013, 03:04 AM

Yost has realized Lough is better than Frenchy now he needs to know that Tejada is better than Moose.

**BigMeatballDave** · 06-07-2013, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by penbook

Yost has realized Lough is better than Frenchy now he needs to know that Tejada is better than Moose.

LOL Tejada is not the answer.

Sure, send Moose to Omaha to work on his swing for a few weeks.

**BigMeatballDave** · 06-07-2013, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge

Hunter Dozier is the Royals first pick. Shortstop

He's 6'4", 220. He's not staying at short.

AussieChiefsFan · 06-07-2013, 03:29 AM

Good win. With a little help from Washington, we can take 3rd tomorrow.

Tytanium · 06-07-2013, 10:25 AM

Update from last night: Ventura's line 5.0IP 87 pitches 1H 4BB 6K 1ER 0HR. Not bad, except for the walks.

Prison Bitch · 06-07-2013, 10:29 AM

Moose: 8-70. At least it's good to know they found out what his problem was a month ago.

**ChiTown** · 06-07-2013, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan

Good win. With a little help from Washington, we can take 3rd tomorrow.

duncan_idaho · 06-07-2013, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Tytanium

Update from last night: Ventura's line 5.0IP 87 pitches 1H 4BB 6K 1ER 0HR. Not bad, except for the walks.

He's missing bats at a great rate. 80ks in 62 2/3, IIRC.

Walks overall haven't been a problem (24 in 62 2/3 is basically an average rate), but are the main thing to watch at the new level.

It would be nice to see him get the walks down under 3/9 IP at Omaha.

ChiefsCountry · 06-07-2013, 11:19 AM

Well the Indians/Tigers square off this weekend, we have an opportunity to move on up if we keep playing well especially with the Astros in town.

Chief_For_Life58 · 06-07-2013, 11:21 AM

ChiefsCountry · 06-07-2013, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58

That's Kansas City sports in a nutshell. Even when we are hottest thing around, we still end up losing.

Chief_For_Life58 · 06-07-2013, 11:25 AM

love the mom in the background munchin popcorn leaning over lol and the douche on the right haha that gif delivers

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duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $-1899692	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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