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Old 07-07-2013, 10:55 AM   #1
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A 2-14 team (that has won 29 games in 6 years) has more talent than a 13-3 team.

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Old 07-07-2013, 10:57 AM   #2
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A 2-14 team (that has won 29 games in 6 years) has more talent than a 13-3 team.

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I don't think that was actually said...

I could have missed it though
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Old 07-07-2013, 11:02 AM   #3
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I don't think that was actually said...

I could have missed it though
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We have the best coaching and talent in this division pretty easily right now.
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Old 07-07-2013, 05:24 PM   #4
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We do. QB is king though. Which I also said is why they'd win more games this year for sure with a healthy Manning. You really don't think 40 turnovers by the position led to that mark?
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Old 07-07-2013, 05:36 PM   #5
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We do. QB is king though. Which I also said is why they'd win more games this year for sure with a healthy Manning. You really don't think 40 turnovers by the position led to that mark?
What's the excuse for only winning 27 games the previous 5 seasons?

That's the problem - there's always an excuse, and it's never the players.

Do talented teams have a down year every 5-10 years? Sure.

Talented teams don't have 6 years stretches where they only win 29 games.

But it's easier to find another reason instead of considering that the team isn't nearly as talented as you like to think they are. I mean, FFS, people STILL act as if guys like Moeaki and McCluster are these can't-miss talents when they've done nothing in the league to give that impression.

And to say this roster is more talented than the roster of a team that just went 13-3?

C'mon, man.
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Old 07-07-2013, 05:40 PM   #6
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What's the excuse for only winning 27 games the previous 5 seasons?

That's the problem - there's always an excuse, and it's never the players.

Do talented teams have a down year every 5-10 years? Sure.

Talented teams don't have 6 years stretches where they only win 29 games.

But it's easier to find another reason instead of considering that the team isn't nearly as talented as you like to think they are. I mean, FFS, people STILL act as if guys like Moeaki and McCluster are these can't-miss talents when they've done nothing in the league to give that impression.

And to say this roster is more talented than the roster of a team that just went 13-3?

C'mon, man.
Quarterback. Plain and simple. That's the difference.
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Old 07-07-2013, 05:44 PM   #7
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Quarterback. Plain and simple. That's the difference.
Interesting, considering teams like the Jets, Oakland, Cleveland, Buffalo, etc have all won more games in the last 6 years than we have, with inferior QB's.*

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Quarterback. Plain and simple. That's the difference.
Yet 2007 and 2012 patriots didn't win a Super Bowl. If QB play is your only "plain and simple" difference. You lose your argument.
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What's the excuse for only winning 27 games the previous 5 seasons?

That's the problem - there's always an excuse, and it's never the players.

Do talented teams have a down year every 5-10 years? Sure.

Talented teams don't have 6 years stretches where they only win 29 games.

But it's easier to find another reason instead of considering that the team isn't nearly as talented as you like to think they are. I mean, FFS, people STILL act as if guys like Moeaki and McCluster are these can't-miss talents when they've done nothing in the league to give that impression.

And to say this roster is more talented than the roster of a team that just went 13-3?

C'mon, man.
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