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Old 12-11-2012, 08:59 AM  
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Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

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Old 07-26-2013, 12:47 AM   #7606
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Old 07-26-2013, 06:24 AM   #7607
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Old 07-26-2013, 07:30 AM   #7608
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Old 07-26-2013, 07:39 AM   #7609
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you have to think there will be a 2-3 week period where Butler, Moose, Grodon and Escobar will go on hitting streaks.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:05 AM   #7610
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So a few days ago it was said (on 810 & twitter, maybe on here as well) that Boston scouts were looking at Hoch. Would you trade him off for Middlebrooks? He can play any infield position and has some pop. It would for sure be a flyer, but he would be better than Getz/EJ platoon. Or do we pretty much already have Middlebrooks in the form of Gio?

Just was screwing around with the ESPN trade app and thought of him for some reason. Serves two purposes..gets rid of Hoch and gives us a different option than Getz
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:36 AM   #7611
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So a few days ago it was said (on 810 & twitter, maybe on here as well) that Boston scouts were looking at Hoch. Would you trade him off for Middlebrooks? He can play any infield position and has some pop. It would for sure be a flyer, but he would be better than Getz/EJ platoon. Or do we pretty much already have Middlebrooks in the form of Gio?

Just was screwing around with the ESPN trade app and thought of him for some reason. Serves two purposes..gets rid of Hoch and gives us a different option than Getz
Uh, yes, if I could get Middlebrooks for Hoch, I do it in a second.

I don't see any defensive records for him anywhere but 3B, though. Don't think he really is an option at SS or 2B.

Middlebrooks is a far superior prospect to Gio. Former top 50ish prospect who hit .288/.325/.500 in about 1/2 a season last year.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:47 AM   #7612
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So a few days ago it was said (on 810 & twitter, maybe on here as well) that Boston scouts were looking at Hoch. Would you trade him off for Middlebrooks? He can play any infield position and has some pop. It would for sure be a flyer, but he would be better than Getz/EJ platoon. Or do we pretty much already have Middlebrooks in the form of Gio?

Just was screwing around with the ESPN trade app and thought of him for some reason. Serves two purposes..gets rid of Hoch and gives us a different option than Getz
I think Middlebrooks is far more likely to go in a deal for a SP. Can't imagine they'd give him up for Hoch.

Unless you think the Sox see Hoch as a starter.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:52 AM   #7613
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Uh, yes, if I could get Middlebrooks for Hoch, I do it in a second.

I don't see any defensive records for him anywhere but 3B, though. Don't think he really is an option at SS or 2B.

Middlebrooks is a far superior prospect to Gio. Former top 50ish prospect who hit .288/.325/.500 in about 1/2 a season last year.
For some reason I had it in my mind that he played some 2B/SS in limited duty last year. Must be wishful thinking for anyone to play other than Getz
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:46 AM   #7614
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I think Middlebrooks is far more likely to go in a deal for a SP. Can't imagine they'd give him up for Hoch.

Unless you think the Sox see Hoch as a starter.
We could throw in Chen, Mendoza and Getz as added bonuses.

They would be tough to part with, but I think I could live with that trade in the end.

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Old 07-26-2013, 11:57 AM   #7615
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This is the struggling Royals fan in me saying this - I have a real fear that we are going to lose the series against the Sox, if not get outright swept. Why? Because Royals, that's why.
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This is the struggling Royals fan in me saying this - I have a real fear that we are going to lose the series against the Sox, if not get outright swept. Why? Because Royals, that's why.
Sox can't figure out Bruce Chen, so I think we'll at least take one.
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Didn't you hear? They are making a movie of this season. We probably win the next six.
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