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Old 09-12-2013, 09:49 PM  
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Wow. He looks pathetic out there. You guys were crying like babies when KC didn't draft him.
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:32 AM   #421
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Anybody else rather have Schwartz starting over Asamoah?


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Old 09-13-2013, 11:33 AM   #422
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Anybody else rather have Schwartz starting over Asamoah?
I rather have someone who is not trying to take out our LT
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:34 AM   #423
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Yes.

Coaches coach the players that are available to them.

Geno Smith isn't under-performing because Rex preferred Mark Sanchez.
Okay. Well, I will go a different direction.

EJ Manuel has been seen as the starter since day one, where as Geno wasn't.

Thus in week one, while both were impressive, (actually geno won, and EJ didn't) Manuel has looked like the more poised of the two.

That has a lot to do with what their expected roles were to be correct?

I totally agree with you now. They are being coached the same way, but EJ is much further ahead than Geno because he has been being groomed as the guy, where as the Jets weren't sure what role Geno was going to play.

Its really semantics. But its funny that you don't see that somehow being the GUY, as opposed to just being a GUY isn't different.
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:37 AM   #424
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Okay. Well, I will go a different direction.

EJ Manuel has been seen as the starter since day one, where as Geno wasn't.
Who gives a ****? Either you can play, or you can't.

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I totally agree with you now. They are being coached the same way, but EJ is much further ahead than Geno because he has been being groomed as the guy, where as the Jets weren't sure what role Geno was going to play.
Bullshit. Smith and Sanchez received equal time with the starting offense in training camp and in the preseason games.

It all comes down to ability.
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:38 AM   #425
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:39 AM   #426
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Schwartz may be just a guy, but I'm getting pretty sick of Asamoah's shit. He's had two entire seasons as a starter and a full offseason with Andy Reid to get his shit together. He's one of those guys that will always have 3 or 4 "Oops, I shat myself" snaps per game. Schwartz is a more consistent player.
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:44 AM   #427
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Schwartz may be just a guy, but I'm getting pretty sick of Asamoah's shit. He's had two entire seasons as a starter and a full offseason with Andy Reid to get his shit together. He's one of those guys that will always have 3 or 4 "Oops, I shat myself" snaps per game. Schwartz is a more consistent player.
I disagree. Schwartz is on his third team in three years and he's nothing special.

Asamoah is the superior player and once healthy, he'll prove it.
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:52 AM   #428
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I wish that the entire discussion would end.
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:55 AM   #429
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No one is forcing you to read the thread.
Thanks! This was incredibly insightful and really quite helpful!
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Old 09-13-2013, 12:15 PM   #430
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Sorter, it's so much easier to not have an opinion until after the dust settles. We should try that next draft season.
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Old 09-13-2013, 12:29 PM   #431
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Old 09-13-2013, 12:39 PM   #432
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I disagree. Schwartz is on his third team in three years and he's nothing special.

Asamoah is the superior player and once healthy, he'll prove it.
I'm going to have to agree with SNR on this one. Asamoah has never progressed beyond his rookie year and still has the fundamental problem of letting people under his pads and losing leverage. It was a knock on him coming out of college and has stuck with him to date.

However, he does have very good quickness and athleticism and the Chiefs have a very good offensive line coaching staff now in place. If he can correct his faults and play to his potential, now is the time to do it.

However, Schwartz is a pretty good player and it's not really indicative of his capabilities saying "third team in three years." He's kind of the opposite of Asamoah - immensely strong and huge, but not as athletic.

He was the starting RG for the Panthers before a weird hip injury put him on IR, signed with the Vikes and there were a number of Vikings people that were upset about him not starting over Brandon Fusco as they felt that Schwartz was the superior player. He's got talent and he can play either the RG or RT spot, where Asamoah is only a guard.
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Old 09-13-2013, 12:44 PM   #433
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Thanks! This was incredibly insightful and really quite helpful!
Going into a thread, reading it through to the 19th page, then whining about how you wish the thread didn't exist is pretty stupid, don't you think?
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Old 09-13-2013, 12:45 PM   #434
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Asamoah has never progressed beyond his rookie year and still has the fundamental problem of letting people under his pads and losing leverage. It was a knock on him coming out of college and has stuck with him to date.
His rookie year? He was hardly on the field due to Lilja.

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However, he does have very good quickness and athleticism and the Chiefs have a very good offensive line coaching staff now in place. If he can correct his faults and play to his potential, now is the time to do it.
If he were healthy, he'd be doing exactly that.

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However, Schwartz is a pretty good player and it's not really indicative of his capabilities saying "third team in three years." He's kind of the opposite of Asamoah - immensely strong and huge, but not as athletic.
Whatever.

He's on his third team in three years playing for league minimum for a reason.

He's a fine backup and spot player but he should not be starting, especially for the Chiefs.

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He was the starting RG for the Panthers before a weird hip injury put him on IR, signed with the Vikes and there were a number of Vikings people that were upset about him not starting over Brandon Fusco as they felt that Schwartz was the superior player. He's got talent and he can play either the RG or RT spot, where Asamoah is only a guard.
Which is exactly why he should be a backup. He's a utility "spot" guy, not a strong starter.

Also, please explain why the running lane between Schwartz and Hudson were virtually non-existent on Sunday.
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Old 09-13-2013, 01:37 PM   #435
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Going into a thread, reading it through to the 19th page, then whining about how you wish the thread didn't exist is pretty stupid, don't you think?
Who said I read the entire thread?


. You're truly a moron, aren't you?
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