So who are the goats on our offensive line and how do we fix it?

[RealSNR]

And no, I don't mean the acronym for "Greatest Of All Time".

If you ask me, Branden Albert was the only one yesterday playing what Romeo would call good football. The difference in line play between when Albert was on the field and when Stephenson was filling in for him was night and day, and that's just at one position.

Fisher's problems have been noted by other people. He's still getting held upright in unbalanced stances half the time, which makes him pretty easy to push back into the pocket. Only thing I imagine we can do there is hope he figures shit out as the season goes on. Perhaps even look to next offseason as a time when he can really get this bullshit out of his system for good.

In the middle, though, I have no clue what the hell is up. All I know is yesterday the DTs for Dallas allowed no pocket formation of any kind. I can probably count on one hand the number of times Smith had more than 2 seconds to survey the field, step up, and make a throw. Our passing game flourished the most when we rolled him out, or he escaped the collapsed pocket and improvised. God, I never thought I'd hear myself say that about Alex Smith. Weird.

Hudson's hit or miss. I just get the feeling he's not the right type of center to play in the NFL. Never has been. Allen's just meh. Asamoah, like Hudson, is hit or miss, and the mistakes he makes sometimes are inexcusable for the expectations we placed on him as a future starter. He's been doing this for much longer than Hudson or Allen, so he should be a significant notch above them in play, but he's not.

So let's hear your theories. Some of you offensive line junkies (I'm looking at you, milkman) should feel free to diagnose exactly what's wrong with these guys instead of my casual observations of "Hudson sometimes doesn't do a very good job."

Also, with the problems we have going for us right now on the line, I'm beginning to think we need Albert longterm. We probably can't afford him, and we probably won't keep him, but we still need him. If an anchor like him drops out next year, our line's gonna be ****ed pretty hard.

[Dayze]

I thought Fisher got blown up too many times. Bull rushed, and speed rushed. I hope he dramatically improves; as it is now, there's no way he could be a LT with any success. Hopefully it's just getting game-time experience etc. but man.....he got pushed around on numerous plays if I recall

[O.city]

Originally Posted by SNR

That's the thing. Asamoah and Hudson have HAD time. They don't have to be Pro Bowlers, but they should be better than this.

Asamoah, yes. Hudson, not really.

I think they just need time together as a unit

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by SNR

That's the thing. Asamoah and Hudson have HAD time. They don't have to be Pro Bowlers, but they should be better than this.

Hudson is playing in like his 5th game.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Red Gorilla

I know you are being sarcastic but, you are probably right. Dorsey and Reid have both said it'll be three years before we are in the hunt and I doubt Albert, Hudson, and Allen will be starting for us in three years.

Link?

Honestly, in 3 years our window is going to slam shut. I'm surprised they said that.

And it's not age that's the issue apart from guys like Hali, DJ, and Charles. It's the money. DJ, Flowers, and Hali's extensions will have run out, and we'll need to pay for Poe. And that's only assuming that we already extended Berry and Houston.

And of course, Fisher will be one year away from needing a new deal. Do we really want to go through this dumb**** cycle of being forced to piss away a 1st round draft pick on an OT every 5 years? Assuming he'll play well enough to the point of being a desirable player to keep around.

[Ace Gunner]

Good points and all, but this new offense is going to take time to install. Let's take a closer look right about december and we'll know a lot more about who is not a fit.

I'm guessing Hudson is the only player that isn't going to fit, simply because he's so small and doesn't use his size to get under the BFF's very well -- his technique needs developing. Reid likes the big men at OL, this may ultimately doom Hudson.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by O.city

Asamoah, yes. Hudson, not really.

I think they just need time together as a unit

My biggest worry is that they're not Andy Reid's kind of offensive linemen, who aren't fit for the kind of blocking he wants to do.

That means they'll probably need to be replaced. Asamoah's a free agent in 2014 regardless, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if he's not around next year.

[Chief Faithful]

I want to believe this line just needs time to gel, but there is a deep desire to see the team draft a better center. Allen is also wearing thin with me. I still believe in Asamoah, Fisher and Albert. Although, I think SNR is right that Asamoah may not fit the profile and will get replaced most likely by not being resigned.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Red Gorilla

I know you are being sarcastic but, you are probably right. Dorsey and Reid have both said it'll be three years before we are in the hunt and I doubt Albert, Hudson, and Allen will be starting for us in three years.

If they really believed that then they had no ****ing business pissing away two high draft picks for Alex Smith.

[LoneWolf]

Youngest starting OL in the league and they're using a different blocking scheme than the last couple of seasons. Give it time.

[Otter]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

Albert - Chiefs fans favorite whipping boy - is sooo far and away our best OL it is worrying

he seems like the only one willing to lay it on the line...everyone else seems -gasp- soft...

I've always liked Albert and so glad he's still with the team. His problems have been business related not player, can't blame him for that mess too much really. Not going to start worrying about Fisher 2 games into his rookie season just yet, I mean come on.

I'm on wait and see now that there seems to be a competent coaching staff in place. Not worried just yet.

[KC native]

Originally Posted by SNR

Also, in before "DRAFT A GUARD IN THE 1ST ROUND"

op can't nb4

[Chiefs=Champions]

The locker room video on KCChiefs.com showed Albert and Dorsey having a long embrace in the locker room after the game. Seems to me like they have a mutual respect. I am optimistic that he will sign long term. Reid loves his RTs as much as his LTs after all...

[Rasputin]

I think Fisher needs to hit the weight room hard and bulk up. Don't think his physical strength is good enough against most D lineman bull rushers.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Youngest starting OL in the league and they're using a different blocking scheme than the last couple of seasons. Give it time.

The problem is they are converting to a system that requires a different kind of lineman than what Haley brought in. Haley wanted that undersized, athletic style of lineman which I never cared for. I want big bodies first and athletic agility second. Big guys don't get blown off the ball and after 3 quarters of them leaning on you, the running game opens up.

Figure it like this, Weigman was like small in the DV line. You had Roaf, Shields and Tate and Trent Green had all day to throw and Priest had running lanes the size of 435.

[LOCOChief]

Fishers is plenty strong, needs to bend his knee's> He plays too high. As someone already mentioned this is a young line and a new system.