Joe Montana, Bill Walsh, Marv Levy, and Jack Steadman.

[gblowfish]

Steadman was in the organization because he was Lamar Hunt's roommate at SMU. I don't think Fuller was the worst pick ever. The one that was the most damaging was Blackledge. We've still never drafted a QB #1 since 1983 because of that pick. Other terrible number one picks were Brian Jozwiak, Anthony Hancock, Trezelle Jenkins and Ryan Sims. Sylvester Morris and Percy Snow were injury victims, so I don't really hold their high pick status against them.

Oh, and in light of this story think about this: Jack Steadman is on the Chiefs ring of honor. Talk about peter principle in action...

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by gblowfish

Steadman was in the organization because he was Lamar Hunt's roommate at SMU. I don't think Fuller was the worst pick ever. The one that was the most damaging was Blackledge. We've still never drafted a QB #1 since 1983 because of that pick. Other terrible number one picks were Brian Jozwiak, Anthony Hancock, Trezelle Jenkins and Ryan Sims. Sylvester Morris and Percy Snow were injury victims, so I don't really hold their high pick status against them.

Oh, and in light of this story think about this: Jack Steadman is on the Chiefs ring of honor. Talk about peter principle in action...

Carl Peterson should have been shot for the Blackledge pick.

[Chief Pote]

It's only a big deal to Montana. If the Chiefs pick Montana...he fades into obscurity and Steve Fuller is the HOF guy.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by gblowfish

Steadman was in the organization because he was Lamar Hunt's roommate at SMU. I don't think Fuller was the worst pick ever. The one that was the most damaging was Blackledge. We've still never drafted a QB #1 since 1983 because of that pick. Other terrible number one picks were Brian Jozwiak, Anthony Hancock, Trezelle Jenkins and Ryan Sims. Sylvester Morris and Percy Snow were injury victims, so I don't really hold their high pick status against them.

Oh, and in light of this story think about this: Jack Steadman is on the Chiefs ring of honor. Talk about peter principle in action...

Steadman gets a lot of shit, but the fact is, much of the core group of the team that Marty took to the AFC championship in '93 were drafted by Steadman.

Steadman's greatest failure was bringing in, and keeping, the right guy to coach the talen

If he had retained Levy after a poor strike shortened, scab team season, he would probably

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by milkman

Steadman gets a lot of shit, but the fact is, much of the core group of the team that Marty took to the AFC championship in '93 were drafted by Steadman.

Steadman's greatest failure was bringing in, and keeping, the right guy to coach the talen

If he had retained Levy after a poor strike shortened, scab team season, he would probably

Levy embarrassed the team and fan base with that ****ing winged T. He was doomed after that crap, at least in my eyes.

[gblowfish]

Originally Posted by milkman

Steadman gets a lot of shit, but the fact is, much of the core group of the team that Marty took to the AFC championship in '93 were drafted by Steadman.

Steadman's greatest failure was bringing in, and keeping, the right guy to coach the talen

If he had retained Levy after a poor strike shortened, scab team season, he would probably

Milk: Steadman was moved out of the GM role in 1976. He was still in the front office, but worked on stuff like player contracts and stadium improvement and such after that point. In 1976 Jim Schaaf was the GM, and stayed until 1988, when King Carl was hired. One of the reasons Steadman got out of the GM chair was because he sucked at evaluating talent, and wanted the scouts and coaches to make the picks after that. They didn't do a very good job until Marty and Carl got here, although they got a couple decent players like Maas and Neil Smith prior to 1988.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by gblowfish

Milk: Steadman was moved out of the GM role in 1976. He was still in the front office, but worked on stuff like player contracts and stadium improvement and such after that point. In 1976 Jim Schaaf was the GM, and stayed until 1988, when King Carl was hired. One of the reasons Steadman got out of the GM chair was because he sucked at evaluating talent, and wanted the scouts and coaches to make the picks after that. They didn't do a very good job until Marty and Carl got here, although they got a couple decent players like Maas and Neil Smith prior to 1988.

People are pointing the finger at Steadman in this thread.

I am simply pointing out the fact the team did actually have talent when Carl took over, which he and Marty built around.

They won with defense, and 5 or 6 of the players on that defense were drafted or signed prior to '89.

[gblowfish]

Originally Posted by milkman

People are pointing the finger at Steadman in this thread.

I am simply pointing out the fact the team did actually have talent when Carl took over, which he and Marty built around.

They won with defense, and 5 or 6 of the players on that defense were drafted or signed prior to '89.

The defense was always good in the 1980s. The offense was god awful, because we never had a top tier QB. One of the reasons Nick the Kick's career stats are so good is because we'd end up kicking field goals in games, then losing 21-9.

Art Still, Deron Cherry, Lloyd Burruss, Kevin Ross, Albert Lewis, Maas, Spani, those guys were all studs. Stephone Paige, Carlos Carson and Delaney for the short time he was here, was about all we had on offense.

The shame for the Chiefs is, when they started to turn it around, there was this guy named Elway that was in the same division....

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by gblowfish

The defense was always good in the 1980s. The offense was god awful, because we never had a top tier QB. One of the reasons Nick the Kick's career stats are so good is because we'd end up kicking field goals in games, then losing 21-9.

Art Still, Deron Cherry, Lloyd Burruss, Kevin Ross, Albert Lewis, Maas, Spani, those guys were all studs. Stephone Paige, Carlos Carson and Delaney for the short time he was here, was about all we had on offense.

The shame for the Chiefs is, when they started to turn it around, there was this guy named Elway that was in the same division....

Yeah, our defenses were for the most part pretty decent if I remember right, and we had some very good players. Other than a brief stint in the early 80s, though, our offenses were terrible.

And I must note that the Broncos were a playoff team before Elway arrived.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by gblowfish

Milk: Steadman was moved out of the GM role in 1976. He was still in the front office, but worked on stuff like player contracts and stadium improvement and such after that point. In 1976 Jim Schaaf was the GM, and stayed until 1988, when King Carl was hired. One of the reasons Steadman got out of the GM chair was because he sucked at evaluating talent, and wanted the scouts and coaches to make the picks after that. They didn't do a very good job until Marty and Carl got here, although they got a couple decent players like Maas and Neil Smith prior to 1988.

Bill Maas
Neil Smith
Dino Hackett
Deron Cherry
Kevin Ross
Kevin Porter
Albert Lewis
John Alt
Dave Lutz
Rich Baldinger
Jonathan Hayes
Christian Okoye
Stephone Paige