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Old 09-17-2013, 09:55 AM  
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SI: The 49ers intended to trade Kaepernick to Philly
Report: Eagles backed out of trade for Colin Kaepernick intending to draft Russell Wilson

BY BRIAN KOTLOFF

The Eagles reportedly had a trade in place to acquire Colin Kaepernick for a second-round pick last offseason.

The NFL’s top two emerging young quarterbacks apparently slipped through the Philadelphia Eagles’ grasp last offseason.

Prior to the 2012 NFL Draft, the Eagles came close to trading a second-round pick for San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick, but backed out of the deal thinking they could draft Russell Wilson, according to ESPN’s Adam Schefter.

The 49ers were open to trading Kaepernick because Alex Smith, who they eventually traded to the Chiefs, had led them to the NFC Championship Game in 2011.

But the Eagles’ decision backfired when the Seattle Seahawks selected Wilson with the 12th pick in the third round, forcing Philadelphia to settle for current backup Nick Foles 13 picks later.

According to the report, the Eagles had “geared their whole draft around” Wilson, who led the Seahawks to the playoffs during a spectacular rookie season in 2012.

Wilson and Kaepernick face off on Sunday Night Football this week, guiding what many consider the two best teams in the NFC.

http://tracking.si.com/2013/09/15/ea...?sct=obnetwork
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Old 09-17-2013, 12:12 PM   #46
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Old 09-17-2013, 12:25 PM   #47
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I know this is being reported, but I have serious questions about the legitimacy of the story.

If you have plans centering around drafting player X, guess what you make sure ****ing happens? You draft player X, especially if he's a QB whom you view as a difference maker. You don't try to get that player in the most convenient round, by the cheapest way possible.
Maybe, if the NFL existed in a vacuum.

If a prospect is universally seen as a third rounder and a front office takes him early in the first round, they're pretty much putting their own job and nearly every job in the entire franchise in jeopardy.

So with that being the case, do you really believe that you or anyone else would draft Russell Wilson, in 2012, in the first round, knowing that if he's a failure, you've jeopardized (if not altogether lost) your job, the jobs of the coaching staff, training staff, etc., not to mention, jeopardizing any likely possibility of ever becoming a GM of an NFL franchise again?
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Old 09-17-2013, 12:27 PM   #48
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Interestg, but that actually makes Philly look pretty stupid on the surface. Take him in the second round if you truly have "geared their whole draft" around Wilson. Or, just trade for Kaep when it came to their pick in the second since Wilson was still there?
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And just let me take this opportunity to remind everyone that the Chiefs took Donald Stephenson in the third round exactly one pick before Seattle took Wilson.
This. Smells like bullshit to this fat man.
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Old 09-17-2013, 12:33 PM   #49
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I am officially confused.
It's clear from the article that Philly wanted an upgrade or alternative to Vick prior to the 2012 draft and season.

Philly had a deal in place for Kaepernick. But apparently, they chose to go with Wilson as their centerpiece. They assumed that Wilson would be available with their third round selection but he was chosen before the Eagles could take him.

The most interesting aspect of the Eagles part in this story is that Howie Roseman is still employed by the Eagles and Andy Reid is not.

Did Reid want Kaepernick but Roseman overruled him?

Did Reid want Wilson and was willing to gamble he'd be there in the third and Roseman obliged?

There are so many possibilities but this report, IMO, shows that teams operate much different than the general public imagines they operate.
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Old 09-17-2013, 12:36 PM   #50
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This. Smells like bullshit to this fat man.
I asked this question in 2009 when Whitlock said Pioli was an egomaniac and I asked the same question in 2011 when Kent Babb released his report on the drama at Arrowhead:

Why would Schefter lie? What does Adam Schefter gain by not double checking sources and publishing a false report?

Why is it so very difficult for fans to believe reporters?
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Old 09-17-2013, 12:40 PM   #51
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Yeah, don't get me ****ing started on that, either.
I'm not saying no one called for it, but I'd love to see where people were posting their genuine breakdown of Kapernick as a major major sleeper worthy of the Chiefs 1st. Or, that he was poised to rise to his level of play now- because it seems like according to this article the niners didn't even know what they had and took a flyer on the guy.

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Old 09-17-2013, 12:55 PM   #52
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I support Alex, but I dont know how much this says about either he or Kaep.

Teams probably have discussions about players or tentative deals going all the time, especially on draft day.

Given what they knew at the time, maybe they were prepared to go forward with Kaep but Philly had a blow-your-doors-off offer?

No one is ever really untradeable.
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Old 09-17-2013, 12:57 PM   #53
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Given what they knew at the time, maybe they were prepared to go forward with Kaep but Philly had a blow-your-doors-off offer?
The article states Kaepernick for Philly's 2012 second rounder, #46 overall.
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Old 09-17-2013, 01:03 PM   #54
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This is why the "Harbaugh absolutely loved Kaepernick" story was bullshit. If he loved him as much as the media expressed he never would have waited until the second to snag him, even if he had to trade up to do so.

Harbaugh and Carroll, like Belichick before them, were just really ****ing lucky.
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Old 09-17-2013, 01:07 PM   #55
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This is why the "Harbaugh absolutely loved Kaepernick" story was bullshit. If he loved him as much as the media expressed he never would have waited until the second to snag him, even if he had to trade up to do so.

Harbaugh and Carroll, like Belichick before them, were just really ****ing lucky.
If I remember right they traded up to get him in the second.
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This is why the "Harbaugh absolutely loved Kaepernick" story was bullshit. If he loved him as much as the media expressed he never would have waited until the second to snag him, even if he had to trade up to do so.

Harbaugh and Carroll, like Belichick before them, were just really ****ing lucky.
Possibly. Who ran the 9ers draft that year? We know Romeo loved him some Kaep as well but it wasn't his call to make.
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Old 09-17-2013, 01:09 PM   #57
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Harbaugh and Carroll, like Belichick before them, were just really ****ing lucky.
I don't know if I'd go that far, at least regarding Pete. He stated throughout the 2012 offseason that there was going to be a true competition between Wilson and Flynn, despite the fact they gave Flynn a three year, $27 million dollar deal.

He said he really liked Wilson's competitiveness, didn't think his height would be a factor and thought he had plenty of arm strength.
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Possibly. Who ran the 9ers draft that year? We know Romeo loved him some Kaep as well but it wasn't his call to make.
Your first year coach that you just moved heaven and earth to get is getting a shitload of say in personnel decisions in offseason #1.
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Possibly. Who ran the 9ers draft that year? We know Romeo loved him some Kaep as well but it wasn't his call to make.
Think that was Haley.
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Possibly. Who ran the 9ers draft that year? We know Romeo loved him some Kaep as well but it wasn't his call to make.
Romeo? TBG's report stated that Haley and the Chiefs scouting department like Kaepernick.

Romeo was the defensive coordinator before 2011 draft.
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