Kaepernick has Nike pull American flag shoe.

[SAUTO]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...pull-flag-shoe

[BigCatDaddy]

The great state of Arizona stepping up.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...rnd/index.html

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by eDave

God, and his son Jesus, would really appreciate it if his peeps didn't call them "blacks" as he Himself was not a white man. They would prefer that you don't label anyone as anything other than a son of God. I feel like they have been quite clear on this subject. You can find reference to it in any hotel room FFS.

This is all in spite of Fox Entertainment's clearly successful, dark and evil training, and brainwashing otherwise. In fact, Fox Entertainment is the anti-christ and you are sucked in. As a son of God, I beg you to break away from Fox Entertainment and their false idol Donald Trump and get yourself saved before it's too late.

Trump is the Manchurian and you don't see it. You are destined to hell as a result. But you don't have to go there man. Get off this doomed path you have chose for yourself and your children.

This is your intervention. Take it seriously.

You're embarrassing yourself.

[redfan]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

So Kaep's kneeling for the anthem was also a ploy to sell merch?

Of course it was. Maybe not exclusive to other reasons, but yes, it was another publicity stunt. Did it work? IDK

[Barret]

Silly question and yes I am tightening down my tin foil hat here but, When was the last time the public has heard anything from Kaepernick? I haven't heard anything from him in a long time, almost like he is becoming irrelevant. Now all of a sudden right before July 4th he comes out and tells a large company that the Betsy Ross Flag shoe is bad because it was made when slaves were legal.

This in turn riles up both sides of the "aisle".

Who "wins" in all of this? Whose power or money or influence gains from this happening? Who benefits the most from lighting a firecracker and throwing it into the fireworks manufacturing plant??

Or am I being to cynical and this is just how society is today and I should just go back to the "girls with clothes and then without" thread and not worry about all this stuff?

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Barret

Silly question and yes I am tightening down my tin foil hat here but, When was the last time the public has heard anything from Kaepernick? I haven't heard anything from him in a long time, almost like he is becoming irrelevant. Now all of a sudden right before July 4th he comes out and tells a large company that the Betsy Ross Flag shoe is bad because it was made when slaves were legal.

This in turn riles up both sides of the "aisle".

Who "wins" in all of this? Whose power or money or influence gains from this happening? Who benefits the most from lighting a firecracker and throwing it into the fireworks manufacturing plant??

Or am I being to cynical and this is just how society is today and I should just go back to the "girls with clothes and then without" thread and not worry about all this stuff?

Divide and conquer.

[FringeNC]

Originally Posted by eDave

God, and his son Jesus, would really appreciate it if his peeps didn't call them "blacks" as he Himself was not a white man. They would prefer that you don't label anyone as anything other than a son of God. I feel like they have been quite clear on this subject. You can find reference to it in any hotel room FFS.

This is all in spite of Fox Entertainment's clearly successful, dark and evil training, and brainwashing otherwise. In fact, Fox Entertainment is the anti-christ and you are sucked in. As a son of God, I beg you to break away from Fox Entertainment and their false idol Donald Trump and get yourself saved before it's too late.

Trump is the Manchurian and you don't see it. You are destined to hell as a result. But you don't have to go there man. Get off this doomed path you have chose for yourself and your children.

This is your intervention. Take it seriously.

Speaking of interventions, it sounds as if you need a psychopharmacological one.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Seriously.... who buys Nike products anyways? I have bouts anything f Nike in decades. They are so stale.

Is this English?

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Originally Posted by eDave

"blacks"

It's like it's 1953 up in here.

I think most people used a different word in 1953.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Mama Hip Rockets

I think most people used a different word in 1953.

more than one descriptor

[Strongside]

Some of you genuinely don't understand how marketing and advertising work in today's world, and I get that. But to say that Nike has nothing to garner from this financially is ignorant.

Let me give you a rundown.

We live in a world where the masses are so inundated by advertising at every turn that it's become noise. And people are better than ever at tuning it out. We're watching cable television (the harbinger and mainstay for media purchasers for decades, the easiest way to reach your audience) in record-low numbers. Online tools like ad blockers allow people to literally never see an ad.

Big brands like NIKE spend literal billions of dollars paying agencies like Wieden+Kennedy to figure out how to remain relevant. To figure out how to disrupt.

Ever heard of positioning? In ad school, positioning teaches that the average consumer only has room for 3 brands in their mind for any given category. Three. That's it.

Think of the first three shoe companies that pop into your head. For me, it's Nike, Adidas and Vans. That means that brands like Reebok and K-Swiss have some work to do with me, personally. But those billions we talked about are being used to study the positioning of a broad swath of people on a macro level. If brands like NIKE find that they're slipping when it comes to positioning, it's time to disrupt the market.

And in today's world, disrupting the market doesn't always mean coming out with an innovative new product. Disrupting the market means getting people to TALK about your brand. Good or bad. Having your brand name become the #1 trending topic on Twitter is so coveted that marketing directors all over the world are being hired, promoted, or fired based on their ability to do just that.

And they can't just pop out a kitschy new ad campaign either. That alone doesn't work anymore. This is our reality now. Sensationalism for the sake of relevancy.

Nike may not have done this as part of a media stunt, but I can promise you they aren't hating what's going on right now. If this were a decade-old shoe brand they'd be in trouble. But this is, quite literally, the biggest sports brand in the world – suddenly top of mind for everyone paying any sort of attention. So when those positioning surveys come out, they'll still sit firmly at the top.

I sit in these meetings on a weekly basis. And while I've never been in a meeting where someone suggested, "Let's make it look like our brand cares more about the opinion of a spokesperson who sucks at football than they do about their own country in order to generate interest and brand recall...," I've certainly heard and executed some crazy shit for the sake of making the wheels of the machine turn.

And for the "They are getting nothing good from this" crowd. You might want to check the stock market today. Because you're ****ing wrong.

[Graystoke]

Originally Posted by Strongside

Some of you genuinely don't understand how marketing and advertising work in today's world, and I get that. But to say that Nike has nothing to garner from this financially is ignorant.

Let me give you a rundown.

We live in a world where the masses are so inundated by advertising at every turn that it's become noise. And people are better than ever at tuning it out. We're watching cable television (the harbinger and mainstay for media purchasers for decades, the easiest way to reach your audience) in record-low numbers. Online tools like ad blockers allow people to literally never see an ad.

Big brands like NIKE spend literal billions of dollars paying agencies like Wieden+Kennedy to figure out how to remain relevant. To figure out how to disrupt.

Ever heard of positioning? In ad school, positioning teaches that the average consumer only has room for 3 brands in their mind for any given category. Three. That's it.

Think of the first three shoe companies that pop into your head. For me, it's Nike, Adidas and Vans. That means that brands like Reebok and K-Swiss have some work to do with me, personally. But those billions we talked about are being used to study the positioning of a broad swath of people on a macro level. If brands like NIKE find that they're slipping when it comes to positioning, it's time to disrupt the market.

And in today's world, disrupting the market doesn't always mean coming out with an innovative new product. Disrupting the market means getting people to TALK about your brand. Good or bad. Having your brand name become the #1 trending topic on Twitter is so coveted that marketing directors all over the world are being hired, promoted, or fired based on their ability to do just that.

And they can't just pop out a kitschy new ad campaign either. That alone doesn't work anymore. This is our reality now. Sensationalism for the sake of relevancy.

Nike may not have done this as part of a media stunt, but I can promise you they aren't hating what's going on right now. If this were a decade-old shoe brand they'd be in trouble. But this is, quite literally, the biggest sports brand in the world – suddenly top of mind for everyone paying any sort of attention. So when those positioning surveys come out, they'll still sit firmly at the top.

I sit in these meetings on a weekly basis. And while I've never been in a meeting where someone suggested, "Let's make it look like our brand cares more about the opinion of a spokesperson who sucks at football than they do about their own country in order to generate interest and brand recall...," I've certainly heard and executed some crazy shit for the sake of making the wheels of the machine turn.

And for the "They are getting nothing good from this" crowd. You might want to check the stock market today. Because you're ****ing wrong.

THIS ALL DAY LONG!

[Kiimo]

Wow the racist rednecks really aren't holding back in this thread.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

This, coming from a pussy who makes a second account to anonymously snipe at members he/she doesn't like.

Really? I figured Adolf was just another one of scuzzer's buttbuddies. If true, this idiot really should be outed.

[BlackHelicopters]

I like these shoes. I don’t care the price. Anyone have a link where I can buy these please?


Size 14.......

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

That time when we all united as just dads.

Wearing The flag as clothing violates flag etiquette. For what it's worth.