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Old 12-07-2012, 11:52 PM   #1
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I have completely given up on Alex Smith as a qb. Its painful to watch. Like, worse than watching Colt McCoy.
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Old 12-08-2012, 12:32 AM   #2
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Ego. He probably has Bill's ego except he didn't do anything to earn it. There's a reason why when Irsay whacked them he had nothing but great things to say about Bill and didn't say much of anything about Chris.

That's one of those things, people who hate Pioli will probably hate the Polians for the same reasons. Very controlling of information, probably even moreso than Pioli... and a bit condescending. But to his credit, there were times Bill made unpopular moves and turned out to be right. Not sure Pioli has done that once. Chris supposedly was the driving force in letting go the coaches and front office people the Colts lost over the last 4-5 years though.
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Old 12-08-2012, 12:37 AM   #3
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While some might be inclined to disagree, it as to be ego due to the actual scouting systems that all teams use. There is a set standard and an actual formula for evaluating players (while different for each team). When you see teams draft poorly consistently, it is either because their formula is bad or they have someone overriding it.
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Old 12-08-2012, 09:17 AM   #4
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Old 12-08-2012, 09:22 AM   #5
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Old 12-08-2012, 09:55 AM   #6
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Hell no. I rather have Carl back than this and I hate Carl too.
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Old 12-08-2012, 02:06 PM   #8
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Bill Polian, in Buffalo, built a complete, well balanced team around Jim Kelly.

In Indy, he surrounded Manning with mediocre talent and used his influence on the competition committee to create rules to maximize Manning's effectiveness.

Buffalo Polian I'd take.
Carolina Polian I'd take.

Indy Poilian.
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Old 12-08-2012, 02:19 PM   #9
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In Indy, he surrounded Manning with mediocre talent and used his influence on the competition committee to create rules to maximize Manning's effectiveness.
So Manning should have more than 1 SB ring in your eyes because Polian drafted mediocre talent especially on D other than Bob Sanders and Freeney?
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Old 12-08-2012, 02:31 PM   #10
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So Manning should have more than 1 SB ring in your eyes because Polian drafted mediocre talent especially on D other than Bob Sanders and Freeney?
I don't know that Manning could have gotten past teams in the playoffs that could bring consistent pressure.

It was in the regular season that he really benefitted from the rules changes.
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Bill Polian, in Buffalo, built a complete, well balanced team around Jim Kelly.

In Indy, he surrounded Manning with mediocre talent and used his influence on the competition committee to create rules to maximize Manning's effectiveness.

Buffalo Polian I'd take.
Carolina Polian I'd take.

Indy Poilian.
No thanks.
He put together good offensive talent around Manning in Indy. It's the defense that he failed at.
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Old 12-08-2012, 03:01 PM   #12
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He put together good offensive talent around Manning in Indy. It's the defense that he failed at.
IDK about that. Bethea, Bob Sanders, Brackett, Freeny, Mathis are all great players.

I'd have to review his drafts but clearly they started drafting much worse once Chris took control.

I still don't want Piolian.
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Bill Polian, in Buffalo, built a complete, well balanced team around Jim Kelly.

In Indy, he surrounded Manning with mediocre talent and used his influence on the competition committee to create rules to maximize Manning's effectiveness.

Buffalo Polian I'd take.
Carolina Polian I'd take.

Indy Poilian.
No thanks.
What rule did they create to help Manning?
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What rule did they create to help Manning?
Not Manning specifically, but the passing game, in general.

The illegal contact rule.
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Not Manning specifically, but the passing game, in general.

The illegal contact rule.
That rule never changed. It was always on the books. It was just never enforced.

No rules were created or changed
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