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Old 04-13-2010, 12:34 PM  
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Ted Ginn on the block

I think he would fit extremely nicely as a slot receiver/KR/PR. I imagine the Tuna would require a 4th or maybe even 2 of our 5ths. Would you pull the trigger?
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Old 04-14-2010, 10:15 AM   #136
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Old 04-14-2010, 10:17 AM   #137
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Old 04-14-2010, 10:38 AM   #138
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Yes, I'm uninformed because forgotten member of the Four Horsemen says so. If you just keep pretending... You won't have to confront the fact that you're not as knowledgeable about the NFL as you'd like to believe. That Samie Parker is Ted Ginn comparison was a brilliant piece of talent evaluation after all.

I told you before I'd call you if I ever wanted to banter about Hollywood harlots. This isn't your area of expertise.

Ginn is still VERY talented, but certainly he hasn't played to his draft position. His skillset is such that it can still be valuable on an NFL team. He'll land on his feet. A low 5th Round pick is reasonable compensation for a player with his talents. He can contribute offensively and be an answer at KR (which further helps the offense).


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Old 04-14-2010, 10:42 AM   #139
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I'd rely on Ginn to be a 3rd or 4th WR and a decent KR thats about it.

he was average at best at WR....sure he could improve but i wouldn't count on anything major. For a speed guy he doesn't have many TDS
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Old 04-14-2010, 10:51 AM   #140
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I'd rely on Ginn to be a 3rd or 4th WR and a decent KR thats about it.

he was average at best at WR....sure he could improve but i wouldn't count on anything major. For a speed guy he doesn't have many TDS
His numbers are terrible, his hands are terrible - he's just NOT a good WR and I don't even know if you can call him an average returner.

He was a bust at #9 overall, which is why just three years later, the Dolphins want to move him. They'll be lucky to get a 2011 fifth rounder. He's maxed out.
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Old 04-14-2010, 10:52 AM   #141
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His numbers are terrible, his hands are terrible - he's just NOT a good WR and I don't even know if you can call him an average returner.

He was a bust at #9 overall, which is why just three years later, the Dolphins want to move him. They'll be lucky to get a 2011 fifth rounder. He's maxed out.
I believe he had the 3rd most drops or something, so definetly not good....and you're probably right. We could probably get someone in the draft with our 5th that could be more reliable. He shouldnt have even been drafted as high as he was
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Old 04-14-2010, 10:55 AM   #142
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Fred Barnes is a much better gamble for any fifth rounder than Ginn.

that was easy

Ginn couldnt catch if he had three hands
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Old 04-14-2010, 10:57 AM   #143
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Dude, you're talking about a 5th rd draft pick here, for a former #1 draft pick that has playmaking ability in the return game.

We have 3 5th rd picks.

We wouldn't be giving up much....and it's not like that 5th rounder would be spent on drafting a future probowler. More than likely the guy will just barely crack the 46 man roster on game days, more than likely will be a practice squad guy.

The return game is a big need for us. Charles can't handle that duty if he's going to be carrying the ball a lot this season. Ginn Jr would indeed help out this team. We currently don't have anyone better, and a 5th rd pick is barely giving up anything at all. IMO Ginn would produce more for this team than what any 5th rounder we would've chosen otherwise.
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Old 04-14-2010, 10:58 AM   #144
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I believe he had the 3rd most drops or something, so definetly not good....and you're probably right. We could probably get someone in the draft with our 5th that could be more reliable. He shouldnt have even been drafted as high as he was
He's Sammy Parker without a few TD returns.

It's absolutely shocking to me that anyone would advocate trading anything more than a 7th rounder, especially considering he's likely to be released with the Brandon Marshall acquisition.

He's just a guy. Nothing special.
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Old 04-14-2010, 11:01 AM   #145
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Dude, you're talking about a 5th rd draft pick here, for a former #1 draft pick that has playmaking ability in the return game.

We have 3 5th rd picks.

We wouldn't be giving up much....and it's not like that 5th rounder would be spent on drafting a future probowler. More than likely the guy will just barely crack the 46 man roster on game days, more than likely will be a practice squad guy.

The return game is a big need for us. Charles can't handle that duty if he's going to be carrying the ball a lot this season. Ginn Jr would indeed help out this team. We currently don't have anyone better, and a 5th rd pick is barely giving up anything at all. IMO Ginn would produce more for this team than what any 5th rounder we would've chosen otherwise.
I'd rather use a 5th round pick on a guy like Eric Olsen or George Selvie - guys with upside, not a guy that's not an elite or even special returner and a guy that drops more balls in the receiving game than Dwayne Bowe.

This draft has 50 guys with a first round grade. That means that there will be plenty of talent that can help the Chiefs in the fifth round, guys that should have been in the fourth and maybe even a few in the third.

Draft picks are very valuable this year and to give one up, you'd better get a special player in return.

Ginn is NOT special.

Furthermore, why would anyone consider giving up a 5th round pick for a guy that touches the ball less than 10 times a game?
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Id rather use the picks we have in the draft. Noway i believe there isnt someone who cant handle PR/KR in the 5th round. I guess id rather find a diamond in the rough than try to polish a turd.
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Old 04-14-2010, 11:03 AM   #147
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Id rather use the picks we have in the draft. Noway i believe there isnt someone who cant handle PR/KR in the 5th round. I guess id rather find a diamond in the rough than try to polish a turd.
Exactly.

I swear, if Ryan Sims had been drafted by another team at #6 overall, there would be Chiefs fans pining for him with a 5th rounder because he was once #6 overall.

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Old 04-14-2010, 11:06 AM   #148
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I'd rather use a 5th round pick on a guy like Eric Olsen or George Selvie - guys with upside, not a guy that's not an elite or even special returner and a guy that drops more balls in the receiving game than Dwayne Bowe.

This draft has 50 guys with a first round grade. That means that there will be plenty of talent that can help the Chiefs in the fifth round, guys that should have been in the fourth and maybe even a few in the third.

Draft picks are very valuable this year and to give one up, you'd better get a special player in return.

Ginn is NOT special.

Furthermore, why would anyone consider giving up a 5th round pick for a guy that touches the ball less than 10 times a game?
I agree on this...i thought at 1st a 5th wouldn't be bad, but that is still a solid pick to atleast get someone that could fill a solid role if anything. I wouldn't mind taking a flyer on him if he is released but thats it.
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While I'm not a fan of giving up picks, I'm assuming it'd be cheap to get this guy.

Lawerence was drafted to be our return guy but never panned out in that spot either. It's not like whoever we draft mid to late is a for sure return guy. Sometimes they just don't cut it.

We wouldn't be asking Ginn to even be our #1 or #2 WR. He'd be a nickle guy at best with speed which this team desperately needs. And most of all, we've have a very good (not average) return man.

I think it's worth looking into.
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No way should the Chiefs trade for Ginn. If the Dolphins cut him,fine bring him in for a look. otherwise,no thank you
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