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The Beatles | 38 | 22.09% | |
Elvis Presley | 25 | 14.53% | |
John Cafferty & The Beaver Brown Band | 102 | 59.30% | |
I'm going to make a case for someone else because I'm a moron | 7 | 4.07% | |
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09-15-2012, 10:07 PM | #1 |
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Chili Peppers.....Blood Sugar Sex Magik.....Brilliance.
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09-15-2012, 10:14 PM | #2 |
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Only a Deejay would confuse the influence of these two artists.
Visit any Pro Audio/Engineering/Producing forum, whether it's Gearslutz or ProSoundWeb or Dave's Place or PSW and do a web search on Elvis or The Beatles. You'll get literally TEN MILLION threads about the Beatles, their recording process, overdubbing process, questions and answers from guys like Ken Scott and so on. You'll find very few about Elvis. Elvis was an AMAZING entertainer. He was and still is the coolest singer/frontman of all time, IMO. He's been copies but never duplicated. The man was a True Original. The Beatles, on the other hand, not only changed popular music forever, they changed the way popular music was recorded and delivered. From syncing up multiple four-track machines to Abbey Road to George Martin to their competitive nature (Sgt. Peppers was a direct response to Pet Sounds) to visiting the Maharishi to using acid to expand their minds, to the British Invasion to the introduction of Chuck Berry, Muddy Waters and countless other "American" artists, The Beatles influence is unparalled. I could spend hours commenting on innovations in sound recording and songwriting as it pertains to The Beatles but I won't. This is not the proper forum. |
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09-15-2012, 10:17 PM | #3 | |
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09-15-2012, 10:53 PM | #4 | |
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To be clear, I am a HUGE beatles fan... which is why I know the subject matter and can point out other artists who were responsible for FAR AND AWAY more innovation in the industry. The Beatles just did everything so damn WELL that they get more credit than they often deserve. |
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09-15-2012, 10:56 PM | #5 |
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I cannot even begin to tell you just how wrong you are, so I won't even bother. But, check out Brian Kehew's "Recording The Beatles" book, which is a must read for any and every studio engineer, producer and even musician and check back in. Furthermore, Ken Scott was more influential than Emerick, but we're splitting hairs. Abbey Road, EMI consoles, the engineers, etc. pretty much defined modern music and there are a countless number of worshippers along with people still chasing those recordings. |
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09-15-2012, 11:25 PM | #6 | |
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Hey, I love the Beatles but there is a cult-like mentality around them that tends to disregard or downplay all the facts. let's look at one big "innovation".. ADT.. well it certainly is a major convenience.. all it does is make something that was being done for years, easier to do. That's great and all but not a "push the envelope" type of innovation that I am going to count for much. Compare that to the Beach Boys TRULY pushing forward the use of multi-tracking. Which of course was an extension of Phil Spector's work. The Beatles made incremental improvements but nothing as drastic as either of them. And I still think Emerick is a better engineer! |
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If you're ever in LA, give me a buzz. I have several Grammy winning engineers and producer friends that would fight you to the death over your words. Me? I'm not nearly that passionate about it. I respect The Beatles, Martin, Emerick, Scott, the EMI & Abbey Road guys but I don't and won't defend them 'til death. And as for the Beach Boys, YES. They don't get nearly the pub for their innovative songwriting and recordings publicly as they should. One of my friends manages Brian Wilson. JFC, the stories I could tell... |
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09-15-2012, 10:23 PM | #8 |
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It's gotta be the Beatles. You could probably spend hours talking about how they changed music.
And I would give a nod to the Beach Boys as well. I've heard various artists refer to them positively. To tie it back to the prog thread believe it or not... I've heard the keyboardist of Genesis, Tony Banks, mention the Beach Boys in interviews before. Obviously musically it would seem a million miles apart, but I've seen him mention how the Beach Boys would do musically complex things and make them sound very simple, among other things. So you never know. |
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09-15-2012, 10:37 PM | #9 |
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Elvis Presley stole all his music from black musicians.
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Claythan stole all his ideas from slightly smarter people on the internet.
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09-15-2012, 10:49 PM | #12 |
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This thread had good footing for a while. Then the usual asswads came in and made asswads of themselves again LOL.
I'm due at a funeral at 9am so Dane asswad can think I gave up if it makes him feel better about himself. Good thread overall... thanks guys.
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Yeah, I'm an "asswad" because I called out your nonsense. Is this how you always end threads? Take your ball and go home? What a ****ing sore loser. |
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