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Old 07-26-2005, 08:52 PM  
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ARGH! OK, I need opinions please...

My wife works for an orthodontist. As with many dental practices, it is mainly a female environment. In this case, between his 2 offices, the only 2 guys who work there are himself and the other orthodontist he employs.

Most of the women in this office are single and frankly, most of them are downright b*tches.

So the doctor (who is LDS) always like to treat his women to something big at the end of the year. Last year, it was take them all to Celine Dion and a REALLY expensive dinner and then give them each about $1000 that they had to spend on themselves at the Forum at Ceasars.

Sounds great...

This year, I find out that he wants to take all of them to New York for a week, all expenses and shows paid.

Wow, sounds like a nice guy...

Wait for it...

Spouses are not allowed.

This is not a selfish why cant I go thing with me. But my wife and I have 2 very youung boys, 1 & 3 years old. I work my ass off running my family business. She and I have wanted to go to New York together for quite a while. Also, lets keep in mind that she does not get along with most of the women in her office.

Not to mention that in my opinion, any big thing like that or employee party should always be spouses invited (since I am an employer myself).

So is it bad of me to be opposed to her going? Am I wrong in thinking, OK, my wife goes to New York without me, somewhere we have wanted to go together, and I have to work my ass off at work, spend a total of 2 hours per day for a week trekking my 2 boys all over town for babysitting, not to mention then having to be the sole provider for them every waking moment during that time while she is having a blast, Without her husband...

serious opinions needed....

I seriously could bunch the shit out of my walls right now.
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Old 07-28-2005, 11:54 AM   #136
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Principle. I have to get it across. I cannot let her be the one in control like this where she pouts and gets her way. It sets a precedent and barring John Roberts coming in, that is like gold. (sorry for political pun)

She made her choice and decision initially without even considering OR consulting me. Then when my opinion was sought and it differed from hers, the problem started. I never make a choice like that without talking it over with her first. Isnt that how a marriage is supposed to be?

I will let her help choose the TV so that it goes with the rest of her furniture in the house...

Why not spend it on NY together, because, principle. I want to go to NY with her, we have talked about this several times prior to this trip thing. But that soon after, I will not want to go to NY with her because she did WANT to go without me.

Her bonus was a trip for HER. Then my bonus is for ME. I find that fair, not selfish. By the way, she wants a new bigger TV too... so in the end, it wont be completely for ME.
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Old 07-28-2005, 12:02 PM   #137
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I must admit that I still don't see why this whole thing is a problem. It appears that it's only a problem because she's going to a fun place that you want to go to, and you're not invited. If she won a car, would you make her turn it down because you don't get to be in the picture in the newspaper?
Rainman this might be...no wait, this has to be your most pathetic parallel example that you have ever posted.
Oh you know what, I bet someone snuck in at your desk while you ran to lunch, Ill check into it for you.
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Old 07-28-2005, 12:08 PM   #138
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Rainman this might be...no wait, this has to be your most pathetic parallel example that you have ever posted.
Oh you know what, I bet someone snuck in at your desk while you ran to lunch, Ill check into it for you.

It must have been Stephen Hawking. I can see wheelchair tracks in the carpet, and the example was brilliant.
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Old 07-28-2005, 12:13 PM   #139
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It must have been Stephen Hawking. I can see wheelchair tracks in the carpet, and the example was brilliant.
LOL.

It would be interesting to see the advice in this thread broken down by age, sex, and marital status/longevity.
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Old 07-28-2005, 12:14 PM   #140
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It must have been Stephen Hawking. I can see wheelchair tracks in the carpet, and the example was brilliant.
Stephen listen to me, you do not know the risk you are taking here. Rainman appears as this forgiving nice guy, but we all here know of his dark side..... and we aint talking black holes here.
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Old 07-28-2005, 12:16 PM   #141
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Principle. I have to get it across. I cannot let her be the one in control like this where she pouts and gets her way. It sets a precedent and barring John Roberts coming in, that is like gold. (sorry for political pun)

She made her choice and decision initially without even considering OR consulting me. Then when my opinion was sought and it differed from hers, the problem started. I never make a choice like that without talking it over with her first. Isnt that how a marriage is supposed to be?

I will let her help choose the TV so that it goes with the rest of her furniture in the house...

Why not spend it on NY together, because, principle. I want to go to NY with her, we have talked about this several times prior to this trip thing. But that soon after, I will not want to go to NY with her because she did WANT to go without me.

Her bonus was a trip for HER. Then my bonus is for ME. I find that fair, not selfish. By the way, she wants a new bigger TV too... so in the end, it wont be completely for ME.
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Old 07-28-2005, 12:16 PM   #142
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Old 07-28-2005, 12:25 PM   #143
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Stephen listen to me, you do not know the risk you are taking here. Rainman appears as this forgiving nice guy, but we all here know of his dark side..... and we aint talking black holes here.
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Old 07-28-2005, 12:26 PM   #144
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He can't take care of his own kids for a week? He must leave most of that up to the wifey. How does he think she feels having to do the work of getting kids, fixing dinner, giving baths, tucking in, all on top of HER job? She probably doesn't bitch and complain about it. She might actually enjoy doing it because she loves her children. He could learn from that. He's afraid of letting her have control? Does he feel like less of a man if he let's her make her own decision and has to do a little extra work with the house and kids for a week? IMO, that would make him more of a man. He'll never know what kind of appreciation she will show for it in the future. Women have amazing memories for stuff like this.

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He can't take care of his own kids for a week? He must leave most of that up to the wifey. How does he think she feels having to do the work of getting kids, fixing dinner, giving baths, tucking in, all on top of HER job? She probably doesn't bitch and complain about it. She might actually enjoy doing it because she loves her children. He could learn from that. He's afraid of letting her have control? Does he feel like less of a man if he let's her make her own decision and has to do a little extra work with the house and kids for a week? IMO, that would make him more of a man. He'll never know what kind of appreciation she will show for it in the future. Women have amazing memories for stuff like this. As for the going on a cruise without her "to be fair", IMO, THAT is what shows that he is less of a man. That is just petty.
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He can't take care of his own kids for a week? He must leave most of that up to the wifey. How does he think she feels having to do the work of getting kids, fixing dinner, giving baths, tucking in, all on top of HER job? She probably doesn't bitch and complain about it. She might actually enjoy doing it because she loves her children. He could learn from that. He's afraid of letting her have control? Does he feel like less of a man if he let's her make her own decision and has to do a little extra work with the house and kids for a week? IMO, that would make him more of a man. He'll never know what kind of appreciation she will show for it in the future. Women have amazing memories for stuff like this. As for the going on a cruise without her "to be fair", IMO, THAT is what shows that he is less of a man. That is just petty.
To be fair, luv, he wasn't going to go on the cruise without her... he was going to take the cash equivalent and buy a big screen TV.
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Old 07-28-2005, 12:32 PM   #147
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Nice. Good luck with the divorce.
It amazes me that divorces do happen over stupid selfishenss like this.

A successful marriage is a compromising fulltime selfless job that should always consider their mate in any major decision.
Its pridefull selfish people that are held in account for 58% of marriages failing.
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To be fair, luv, he wasn't going to go on the cruise without her... he was going to take the cash equivalent and buy a big screen TV.
My bad. I'll go adjust my original post.
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It amazes me that divorces do happen over stupid selfishenss like this.

A successful marriage is a compromising fulltime selfless job that should always consider their mate in any major decision.
Its pridefull selfish people that are held in account for 58% of marriages failing.
Mine was about whistling. He just whistled one time too many.
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