WHITLOCK - IT’S TIME TO LOSE FOR THE FUTURE - Page 10

Hammock Parties · 12-09-2007, 11:14 PM

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DENVER | You hope this wasn’t rock bottom.

Seriously, you hope King Carl, Herm Edwards and the Chiefs have the decency and smarts to save their worst for last, for season-ending road trips to Detroit and New York.

This season can only end on a positive note if the Chiefs get a top-five draft pick out of it and a chance to nab tackle Jake Long or quarterbacks Matt Ryan and Brian Brohm.

Sunday’s 41-7 loss to the Denver Broncos could be problematic. It was the kind of embarrassing, gutless performance that motivates players and coaches to finish the season with pride.

Edwards was angry Sunday. Irritated by the performance of his defense, Herm sounded feisty and prideful in his postgame comments. At one point, he nearly broke into his “you play to win the game” mantra.

No. You play to win the Super Bowl. And when that’s not a legitimate goal, you play to make the playoffs. Once the playoffs are eliminated — as they were on Sunday for the Chiefs — you play to develop your players for next season.

That’s where the Chiefs are now — except they have a special circumstance. They can’t develop Brodie Croyle, Kolby Smith or Dwayne Bowe because KC’s offensive line is so bad that it’s impossible to do anything worthwhile on offense.

When that’s the case, you play for draft position, and you hope the Chiefs can sink deeper than they did on Sunday inside Invesco Field at Mile High.

In losing their sixth straight, the Chiefs rushed for 16 yards in 17 carries, surrendered five sacks, punted eight times, allowed Denver 215 rushing yards and never touched Bronco quarterback Jay Cutler, who finished 20 of 27 passing for 244 yards and four touchdowns.

The Preacher will be preaching this week. He’s embarrassed. If he’s going to lose a game, he’d prefer to lose in the fourth quarter after making everyone suffer through two hours of field-position football.

Denver ran away with this thing, jumping to a two-TD lead in the first quarter and cruising to a 24-7 halftime advantage.

“Our strength is our defense, and we can’t give up 14 points to start out the game and expect to win,” Edwards complained.

Right now there are five teams with worse records than the Chiefs — Miami, 0-13, St. Louis, 3-10, San Francisco, 3-10, the Jets, 3-10 and Atlanta, 3-9. Oakland and Baltimore have the same 4-9 record as the Chiefs.

If the Chiefs take care of business, lose to Tennessee and Detroit, they could head to New York and take on the Jets for the right to draft as high as No. 4.

The key to losing out is packing it in mentally. Sunday’s effort is just the kind of thing that could cause players to refocus.

“It’s not good. We didn’t play well today. It seems like guys didn’t show up today,” Tony Gonzalez grumbled. “Maybe people were already in offseason mode. Maybe they’re already back to their families, going back to Miami or wherever you go during the offseason. It’s sad. It’s frustrating. We’ve got three games left... Let’s go play hard. Let’s try to win. I don’t care about the playoffs.”

I disagree. I loved every pass Dwayne Bowe and Kris Wilson dropped. It was great seeing Ty Law and Patrick Surtain get lit up like Christmas trees. Jared Allen has done more than enough this season to earn a major contract upgrade. He deserved the break he took on Sunday. There’s no reason to waste a sack on the Broncos. And why not let a no-name back jam it right down your throat repeatedly?

You just hope they can do it three more times. We know bad offensive-line play is a given. On one of Croyle’s five sacks, every lineman except Brian Waters got beat.

Honestly, I’m thinking about deducting points from my season-ending Chiefs grades from any player who tries to play hero down the stretch, especially if it’s a veteran player. If Bobby Sippio makes a big play, I’m cool with it. But there’s no reason for an established veteran to do anything beyond go through the motions at this point.

Chiefs fans should do their part by skipping the Tennessee game. We all have a role to play in getting this team to 4-12.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-10-2007, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone

Turk was a 3rd round pick.... we had no 2nd but two 3rds IIRC.

****ing dumbass

Turk was a R2 pick, Tank Tyler was a R3 pick.

Mecca · 12-10-2007, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone

Turk was a 3rd round pick.... we had no 2nd but two 3rds IIRC.

****ing dumbass

You're wrong with this so umm...

**pr_capone** · 12-10-2007, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

I don't understand. It's a sunk cost. You're out the ticket money whether you go to the game or not. If anything, you're out more money if you go to the game in parking and gas, tailgate food, whatever else you need. It would probably save money to not go.

2 of those tickets I picked up were for a buddy who was to pay me when we drove up to Arrowhead. He backed out last minute.

Now he is saying he want to go ahead and go... so it is he, myself, the wife, and a spare ticket.

Now... if someone picks up 2 of them at face value.... I am out only the cost of my ticket as I would make the wife stay at home.

**pr_capone** · 12-10-2007, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

You're wrong with this so umm...

Leave me alone.... I am tired. LMFAO

Man.... I'm off tonight.

NVM then! lol

night night

el borracho · 12-10-2007, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

This team sucks in every facet of the game right now....they better be more worried about finding cornerstone players for anywhere on the team than "fixing a hole" with these picks...especially this first one.

That is exactly correct. We are a 4-12 team, there really isn't any position we don't need.

Ari ümlaüt · 12-10-2007, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone

Turk was a 3rd round pick.... we had no 2nd but two 3rds IIRC.

****ing dumbass

Kahlil was on the board when the Chiefs picked Turk, döüchebag. Pick 54 tells me 2nd round.

and STFD.

Zouk · 12-10-2007, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ümlaüt

The Chiefs should have drafted Ryan Kahlil from USC instead of Turk McBride in the 2nd round last year. ****ing dumbasses.

The Panthers O-line is terrible and Kalil still can't get on the field.

el borracho · 12-10-2007, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock

Did they send Beck back to the bench early in the game today? I heard it happened, but I didn't hear a definitive reason why. Desperation to avoid 0-16, probably.

I'm do not know- I didn't watch the Dolphins' game.

el borracho · 12-10-2007, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

I would rather have Sedrick Ellis than Laurinitis. An awesome DT will make your MLB look better.

Agreed. I can't believe we have tried and failed with so many DTs in the last 7 effing years but it is true. If we want to be any good at all we need to find at least one standout DT in the next two years.

**Dylan** · 12-10-2007, 12:40 AM

After reading his article, "Herm deserves more time," it's safe to say Whitlock had this article saved to his hard drive.

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"Chiefs fans should do their part by skipping the Tennessee game. We all have a role to play in getting this team to 4-12." Byline, Jason Whitlock

An empty stadium, reflects its head coach. What a moron.

el borracho · 12-10-2007, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ümlaüt

The Chiefs should have drafted Ryan Kahlil from USC instead of Turk McBride in the 2nd round last year. ****ing dumbasses.

Yep. And we should have used our 5th round pick on a G instead of a K last year, too.

ChiefsCountry · 12-10-2007, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by el borracho

Agreed. I can't believe we have tried and failed with so many DTs in the last 7 effing years but it is true. If we want to be any good at all we need to find at least one standout DT in the next two years.

Dan Salaumeua & Joe Phillips was the main reason our defense kicked ass in the 90's. The 97 team did as well bc Dan Williams dominated for the contract that he wanted.

el borracho · 12-10-2007, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Dan Salaumeua & Joe Phillips was the main reason our defense kicked ass in the 90's. The 97 team did as well bc Dan Williams dominated for the contract that he wanted.

I'm pretty sure that Smith, Thomas, Carter and Hasty had something to do with it, as well.

SBK · 12-10-2007, 01:44 AM

This article is one of the funniest I've read in awhile.

If we can get a stud on either line I'm ok with that. If we can draft a LT in the first, say Long, and the 2nd, the dude from Ole Miss, I'd be okay with that too.

I'm with Mecca now, this team is going to suck next year too. They're horrible.

ChiefsCountry · 12-10-2007, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by el borracho

I'm pretty sure that Smith, Thomas, Carter and Hasty had something to do with it, as well.

Smith and Thomas did but Carter and Hasty werent the corners all those years.

12-09-2007, 11:14 PM
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4160478	WHITLOCK - IT’S TIME TO LOSE FOR THE FUTURE http://www.kansascity.com/sports/col...ry/397009.html DENVER \| You hope this wasn’t rock bottom. Seriously, you hope King Carl, Herm Edwards and the Chiefs have the decency and smarts to save their worst for last, for season-ending road trips to Detroit and New York. This season can only end on a positive note if the Chiefs get a top-five draft pick out of it and a chance to nab tackle Jake Long or quarterbacks Matt Ryan and Brian Brohm. Sunday’s 41-7 loss to the Denver Broncos could be problematic. It was the kind of embarrassing, gutless performance that motivates players and coaches to finish the season with pride. Edwards was angry Sunday. Irritated by the performance of his defense, Herm sounded feisty and prideful in his postgame comments. At one point, he nearly broke into his “you play to win the game” mantra. No. You play to win the Super Bowl. And when that’s not a legitimate goal, you play to make the playoffs. Once the playoffs are eliminated — as they were on Sunday for the Chiefs — you play to develop your players for next season. That’s where the Chiefs are now — except they have a special circumstance. They can’t develop Brodie Croyle, Kolby Smith or Dwayne Bowe because KC’s offensive line is so bad that it’s impossible to do anything worthwhile on offense. When that’s the case, you play for draft position, and you hope the Chiefs can sink deeper than they did on Sunday inside Invesco Field at Mile High. In losing their sixth straight, the Chiefs rushed for 16 yards in 17 carries, surrendered five sacks, punted eight times, allowed Denver 215 rushing yards and never touched Bronco quarterback Jay Cutler, who finished 20 of 27 passing for 244 yards and four touchdowns. The Preacher will be preaching this week. He’s embarrassed. If he’s going to lose a game, he’d prefer to lose in the fourth quarter after making everyone suffer through two hours of field-position football. Denver ran away with this thing, jumping to a two-TD lead in the first quarter and cruising to a 24-7 halftime advantage. “Our strength is our defense, and we can’t give up 14 points to start out the game and expect to win,” Edwards complained. Right now there are five teams with worse records than the Chiefs — Miami, 0-13, St. Louis, 3-10, San Francisco, 3-10, the Jets, 3-10 and Atlanta, 3-9. Oakland and Baltimore have the same 4-9 record as the Chiefs. If the Chiefs take care of business, lose to Tennessee and Detroit, they could head to New York and take on the Jets for the right to draft as high as No. 4. The key to losing out is packing it in mentally. Sunday’s effort is just the kind of thing that could cause players to refocus. “It’s not good. We didn’t play well today. It seems like guys didn’t show up today,” Tony Gonzalez grumbled. “Maybe people were already in offseason mode. Maybe they’re already back to their families, going back to Miami or wherever you go during the offseason. It’s sad. It’s frustrating. We’ve got three games left... Let’s go play hard. Let’s try to win. I don’t care about the playoffs.” I disagree. I loved every pass Dwayne Bowe and Kris Wilson dropped. It was great seeing Ty Law and Patrick Surtain get lit up like Christmas trees. Jared Allen has done more than enough this season to earn a major contract upgrade. He deserved the break he took on Sunday. There’s no reason to waste a sack on the Broncos. And why not let a no-name back jam it right down your throat repeatedly? You just hope they can do it three more times. We know bad offensive-line play is a given. On one of Croyle’s five sacks, every lineman except Brian Waters got beat. Honestly, I’m thinking about deducting points from my season-ending Chiefs grades from any player who tries to play hero down the stretch, especially if it’s a veteran player. If Bobby Sippio makes a big play, I’m cool with it. But there’s no reason for an established veteran to do anything beyond go through the motions at this point. Chiefs fans should do their part by skipping the Tennessee game. We all have a role to play in getting this team to 4-12.
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12-10-2007, 01:44 AM	#149
SBK Curry is the pick??? Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Georgia Casino cash: $10004900	This article is one of the funniest I've read in awhile. If we can get a stud on either line I'm ok with that. If we can draft a LT in the first, say Long, and the 2nd, the dude from Ole Miss, I'd be okay with that too. I'm with Mecca now, this team is going to suck next year too. They're horrible.
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