Chiefs forced to spend $20 million to meet new salary floor?

[FloridaMan88]

So it appears from most reports that the agreed upon 2011 salary cap will be $120 million with the salary floor constituting AT LEAST (and this could be increased) 90% of the salary cap (about $108 million)

Most reports had the Chiefs payroll last season near $90 million.

This means that the Chiefs will be forced to spend about $20 million just to meet the salary floor.

Clark's Chiefs will be FORCED to pursue an aggressive approach in free agency.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

As you know, I'm a lot more resistant to most about signing free agents just for the sake of signing them. And I agree with you on Belcher--I still think he has very good upside.

But what are your thoughts on David Harris? He's still young and he's outstanding.

Does signing Harris impede our ability to sign Steve Breaston?

My entire take is about priorities.

I want to invest in Carr, Flowers, Hali, Gilberry and Richardson.

After that, I want to invest in depth and competition at the OT position, in the slot, and on the nose.

Will there be any money left after that to invest in Davis Harris?

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

I watch him play every year in the pre-season. The Lions have been a pretty solid offensive team for a few years now. I'd much rather sign a veteran QB until Stanazi is ready to be the #2.

I bet all those great scrubs that are about to be cut just really help to raise the level of Stanton's play.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by milkman

Does signing Harris impede our ability to sign Steve Breaston?

My entire take is about priorities.

I want to invest in Carr, Flowers, Hali, Gilberry and Richardson.

After that, I want to invest in depth and competition at the OT position, in the slot, and on the nose.

Will there be any money left after that to invest in Davis Harris?

Great post.
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[Rausch]

Originally Posted by milkman

Does signing Harris impede our ability to sign Steve Breaston?

My entire take is about priorities.

I want to invest in Carr, Flowers, Hali, Gilberry and Richardson.

After that, I want to invest in depth and competition at the OT position, in the slot, and on the nose.

Will there be any money left after that to invest in Davis Harris?

US FIRST....

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by milkman

I bet all those great scrubs that are about to be cut just really help to raise the level of Stanton's play.

How many more excuses are you going to come up with?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by milkman

Does signing Harris impede our ability to sign Steve Breaston?

My entire take is about priorities.

I want to invest in Carr, Flowers, Hali, Gilberry and Richardson.

After that, I want to invest in depth and competition at the OT position, in the slot, and on the nose.

Will there be any money left after that to invest in Davis Harris?

I agree to some extent. But I also believe that if you have a chance to land a player who could be a pro bowler at a key position, free agency doesn't give you that many opportunities to do that anymore. We all know that ILB is a lot more important than the Slot and I would argue than Right Tackle too. I'd like to fill every position with Pro Bowlers. But all we need is solid but unspectacular play at RT and a decent 500-yard producer out of the slot, especially given that this is a run-focused team and our slot is essentially our 4th receiving option.

Let's put it this way... if we had a #10 pick in the draft, and you had the choice between an all-pro LB (over Belcher), a terrific slot receiver (over McCluster) or a terrific RT like Clabo (over Richardson), which would you choose? Most of us know that the last 2 would be reaches.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

How many more excuses are you going to come up with?

I've watched him in the regular season.

So your "I watch him every preseason" means jack.

I saw Kurt Warner look like crap in the 2000 preseason.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by milkman

I've watched him in the regular season.

So your "I watch him every preseason" means jack.

I saw Kurt Warner look like crap in the 2000 preseason.

These are all broad generalities.

"He's a good QB everyone knows that"

"All those scurbs he's played with will be cut"

"Kurt Warner played like crap in the preseason in 2000"

No No. I watched Stanton play at Michigan State and his weakness was being consistent in a basic offense and he's still struggled with that in the pro's. This team doesn't need another project they have Stanazi. They need someone who can fill in and win a game or two.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I agree to some extent. But I also believe that if you have a chance to land a player who could be a pro bowler at a key position, free agency doesn't give you that many opportunities to do that anymore. We all know that ILB is a lot more important than the Slot and I would argue than Right Tackle too. I'd like to fill every position with Pro Bowlers. But all we need is solid but unspectacular play at RT and a decent 500-yard producer out of the slot, especially given that this is a run-focused team and our slot is essentially our 4th receiving option.

Let's put it this way... if we had a #10 pick in the draft, and you had the choice between an all-pro LB (over Belcher), a terrific slot receiver (over McCluster) or a terrific RT like Clabo (over Richardson), which would you choose? Most of us know that the last 2 would be reaches.

The draft and free agency are two different animals.

That being said, if I think that I have a guy with the potential to be very good to outstanding on my roster at ILB (as I do with Belcher), then I am likely not going to spend that #10 pick on that position.

And frankly, I think RT is undervalued.

I wouldn't spend a top 5 pick on one, but depending on the talent, I might well spend a #10 pick on one, if I think he has Clabo potential.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

These are all broad generalities.

"He's a good QB everyone knows that"

"All those scurbs he's played with will be cut"

"Kurt Warner played like crap in the preseason in 2000"

No No. I watched Stanton play at Michigan State and his weakness was being consistent in a basic offense and he's still struggled with that in the pro's. This team doesn't need another project they have Stanazi. They need someone who can fill in and win a game or two.

We didn't draft Stanton but I wish him well.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

These are all broad generalities.

"He's a good QB everyone knows that"

"All those scurbs he's played with will be cut"

"Kurt Warner played like crap in the preseason in 2000"

No No. I watched Stanton play at Michigan State and his weakness was being consistent in a basic offense and he's still struggled with that in the pro's. This team doesn't need another project they have Stanazi. They need someone who can fill in and win a game or two.

Now, you see, if you had mentioned the Michigan St, thing first, your opinion would have carried more weight.

But I never said anything like
"He's a good QB everyone knows that"

But I have watched him in the regular season, and liked the talent he's displayed.

But if you had mentioned Michiga St. I might have been given pause to think, Hmmm....maybe I'm missing something.

Preseason does mean jack.

[milkman]

Bear in mind, however, I am not looking to replace Stanzi.

I am looking to replace Tyler Palko.

Tell me that Tyler Palko is a better backup option than Stanton.

I dare ya.

[Okie_Apparition]

ESPN showed a list of the 5 teams in most trouble with the 120 mil cap yesterday. One of those was the Packers because they had a shit ton on IR. I don't think the Chiefs had any high dollar players on IR. They still need to be figured in, if not cut

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by milkman

The draft and free agency are two different animals.

That being said, if I think that I have a guy with the potential to be very good to outstanding on my roster at ILB (as I do with Belcher), then I am likely not going to spend that #10 pick on that position.

And frankly, I think RT is undervalued.

I wouldn't spend a top 5 pick on one, but depending on the talent, I might well spend a #10 pick on one, if I think he has Clabo potential.

Clabo maybe. I still believe any team can be very good with a good not great RT. But I understand the reasoning, since the Chiefs are going to have to be a very good running team. Breaston, I don't buy into. And at NT, you typically don't have to break the bank for that position. I like Belcher too, but he still has just as much potential to be adequate as he does to be outstanding. David Harris is already outstanding, and he was outstanding even when the Jets had major problems at Nose Tackle. And he is phenomenal against the run, which would be huge for the Chiefs.

There are plenty of options at RT and the Slot if the Chiefs want to wait for the second wave. They could still probably land a guy like Jamaal Brown, Marshall Yanda, or Ryan Harris, probably without breaking the bank. At Slot, Lance Moore and James Jones shouldn't break the bank. Hell, I don't think not bringing one in changes the offense much at all. At the Nose, you could go with a guy like Aubrayo and only have weight on your cap for 2 years.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Clabo maybe. I still believe any team can be very good with a good not great RT. But I understand the reasoning, since the Chiefs are going to have to be a very good running team. Breaston, I don't buy into. And at NT, you typically don't have to break the bank for that position. I like Belcher too, but he still has just as much potential to be adequate as he does to be outstanding. David Harris is already outstanding, and he was outstanding even when the Jets had major problems at Nose Tackle. And he is phenomenal against the run, which would be huge for the Chiefs.

There are plenty of options at RT and the Slot if the Chiefs want to wait for the second wave. They could still probably land a guy like Jamaal Brown, Marshall Yanda, or Ryan Harris, probably without breaking the bank. At Slot, Lance Moore and James Jones shouldn't break the bank. Hell, I don't think not bringing one in changes the offense much at all. At the Nose, you could go with a guy like Aubrayo and only have weight on your cap for 2 years.

Just another point here.

We disagree on the value of the slot receiver, especially in this offense, with Cassel at the helm.

The more weapons that Cassel has, the better, and a reliable slot in 3rd down situations for cassel would be huge.

And it all still comes down to priorities.

We could wait for the second wave, but in either scenario, daivid Harris is not a priority at this time.