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Old 01-11-2012, 04:54 AM  
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drafting Trent Richardson

just saw the 2nd different mock that has us taking T-Rich 2.0 w/our 1st pick. I'm not opposed to it since no all-world DT is available this year. Here's the write up from Foxsports:

11. Kansas City Chiefs*: Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama: The Chiefs lost Jamaal Charles in the second week of the 2011 NFL season, and the offense never rebounded. Charles should be back and healthy next season, but Richardson is the rare running back talent who can completely change an offense. The way this mock draft has unfolded, he’ll be slipping out of the Top 10 — something few scouts or experts expect. A different type of back from Charles, the two could work together to form a dynamic duo in the Kansas City backfield. Though Charles signed a five-year, $32 million extension in 2010, he’s not making the Adrian Peterson/Chris Johnson money you might expect. Richardson, a between-the-tackles grinder, is viewed as a much better pro prospect than his former teammate, Mark Ingram. In the rough-and-tumble AFC West, I love the thought of a Charles-Richardson platoon.
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Old 01-11-2012, 01:46 PM   #136
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Strategy was thrown out the window a long time ago in the NFL. Performance dominates everything. This is a "What can you do for me now? What have you done for me lately?" league. If we get an OL and he sucks it up, and you're only argument is...he's a rookie...what good does that do us in 2012 when all those injured players are back? I say draft who gives you more upside NOW, not later. Thus Trent mother****in Richardson
Enjoy your 8 wins and no playoffs.
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Old 01-11-2012, 01:48 PM   #137
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Enjoy your 8 wins and no playoffs.
THAT'S your response to what I'm saying? That just means you know I'm right and now you're being petty.
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Old 01-11-2012, 01:50 PM   #138
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THAT'S your response to what I'm saying? That just means you know I'm right and now you're being petty.
It means you're unable to grasp what I'm talking about. Nothing more, nothing less.

I wouldn't expect you to understand, you're not a fan of a TEAM. You follow your favorite college players around the NFL.

I've been a fan of this team for almost 3 decades and I've seen them make moves like this one over and over and over again.
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Old 01-11-2012, 01:54 PM   #139
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Hypothetically if we had our quarterback in tow - Richardson would be our pick in a heart beat IMO if he was on the board. No questions asked.
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Old 01-11-2012, 01:56 PM   #140
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The argument will never die because I won't relent.

My argument is based partially in fact but based mostly on my near 30 years of being a fan for a team that's really never made the "right" move.

Does that make sense?
I've said many times, i understand your fear. I share it to a degree. But it's time to let that go.

At some point, this team HAS to make the right moves.

If this team takes Richardson, and wins 7-8 games a year, then it would be clearly evident that the QB position is the issue. If you have a great D, and a great running game and still only win 8 games, then the passing game (QB) would stick out like a sore thumb.

While you think it will mask our QB, i think it'll make the need for a QB glaring.

Because if you can't succeed with SB caliber Coaching, a SB caliber Running game, and a SB caliber D, then you'll never win anything. Ever.

Pioli has a lot of faults. But I do believe he wants to win a SB, and I don't think he'll let Matt Cassel stand in his way.

If everything people have said about his ego is true, then i fully expect Cassel to be cut, if not this season then surely next, because the ultimate way to feed that ego, to live up to the hype you think you are, is to win a SB by all means necessary.
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Old 01-11-2012, 01:58 PM   #141
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It means you're unable to grasp what I'm talking about. Nothing more, nothing less.

I wouldn't expect you to understand, you're not a fan of a TEAM. You follow your favorite college players around the NFL.

I've been a fan of this team for almost 3 decades and I've seen them make moves like this one over and over and over again.
Larry Johnson, Greg Hill, Paul Palmer, Woody Green and Jeff Kinney.

One too few 'overs,' if you go back 40+ years. One too many for just 30.
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Old 01-11-2012, 02:00 PM   #142
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If Fisher ends up in Miami, no way Richardson doesn't make it past the Dolphins.
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Hypothetically if we had our quarterback in tow - Richardson would be our pick in a heart beat IMO if he was on the board. No questions asked.
If we intend to give Stanzi a LEGITIMATE shot at the starting job next year, draft Trent Richardson and don't look back.
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If Fisher ends up in Miami, no way Richardson doesn't make it past the Dolphins.
I don't not think your sentence doesn't fail to mean what you didn't want it to.
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Old 01-11-2012, 02:05 PM   #146
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If this team takes Richardson, and wins 7-8 games a year, then it would be clearly evident that the QB position is the issue. If you have a great D, and a great running game and still only win 8 games, then the passing game (QB) would stick out like a sore thumb.
This part isn't my central issue. No doubt the QB will become a glaring issue, just like it did in the 90's here, or in Minnesota now.

The problem isn't what needs to be addressed but HOW they address it.

In your scenario, they've drafted Richardson and already built an offense around him. We, as Chief fans, know how this ends. We'll be looking at some other team's castoffs for the next dozen years trying to "get over the hump".
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Old 01-11-2012, 02:06 PM   #147
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Larry Johnson, Greg Hill, Paul Palmer, Woody Green and Jeff Kinney.

One too few 'overs,' if you go back 40+ years. One too many for just 30.
I wasn't specifically talking about drafting a 1st round RB.

I was talking more specifically about being overly conservative when it comes to skill players.
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This part isn't my central issue. No doubt the QB will become a glaring issue, just like it did in the 90's here, or in Minnesota now.

The problem isn't what needs to be addressed but HOW they address it.

In your scenario, they've drafted Richardson and already built an offense around him. We, as Chief fans, know how this ends. We'll be looking at some other team's castoffs for the next dozen years trying to "get over the hump".
Because Lamar, Err, Carl, err Marty, err, Gunther, err, Dick, err Herm, YEAH Herm!!! will demand it!!!!
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I wasn't specifically talking about drafting a 1st round RB.

I was talking more specifically about being overly conservative when it comes to skill players.
You want I should list our first round OT/Gs and DEs?
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How many people were saying WTF when JC was drafted, when we had LJ? RB may be a seamless transition, but it's the most brutal. Touch the ball, you get hit. Hard.

Jackie Battle, Thomas Jones, and who, after JC? No depth; we need help. Young help. How much dealing can we do, before the draft? Do we have on the PS, help with RB depth?
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