just more speculation about RGIII

[tooge]

Well, at least they mention the chiefs


Robert Griffin trade rumors already spinning out of control
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 28, 2012, 4:04 PM EST

APForget the Combine. Forget free agency. Robert Griffin III trade chatter dominates the NFL discussion these days.

And it’s still February.

Perhaps Rams COO Kevin Demoff is right: It’s getting less crazy to imagine a deal could be completed before free agency. We’ve read and heard an unprecedented amount of trade rumors about the No. 2 overall pick for this time of year.

Let’s go over the latest:

1. Mike Jones of the Washington Post writes the Redskins would give up the No. 6 overall pick and next year’s first round pick in addition to multiple picks in the mid-to-upper rounds of the draft. Consider this the starting point for negotiations.

The Rams are reportedly looking for a similar package to the one San Diego netted for Eli Manning: Two firsts (including the No. 4 overall pick), a third- and fifth-round pick. The Redskins sound ready to meet this demand.

2. Texas A&M prospect Ryan Tannehill is watching the Griffin talk closely. Jones believes the Redskins would take Tannehill at No. 6 overal if they can’t get Griffin.

3. Terry Pluto of the Cleveland Plain-Dealer believes the Browns will ultimately have to give up three first-round picks in order to land Griffin. Do I hear four, Redskins? (This reminds us of a classic article by the Onion.)

4. Demoff told Peter King of SI.com that the Rams received a feeler from a team “you would never expect.” Does Kansas City count? If not, we’ll roll with Philadelphia as our irresponsible guess for a mystery team. Enter your pick below.

5. The St. Louis Post-Dispatch considers the Redskins the early favorite to land Griffin. This sounds true based on all the reports, plus Mike Shanahan’s close relationship with Jeff Fisher.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58

yeah hes such a waste of time. Great qb's dont play one year of college quarterback. Draft someone later. tannehill is NOT worth the 11th pick. jesus

I'd rather wait until 2013. If you want a QB to test out, bring in Clausen--he's better than anyone you're going to find after Tannehill (who I think is a decent pick, but hell no if it's going to be at #11).

I think 2013 will end up being not a better class, but it's going to have a ton more second-tier first round talent (in my opinion, Tannehill is second round talent being forced into a #1 pick by desperate teams).

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

It matters because teams are smart enough to know that it's better to go with a young, elite, blue chip prospect, especially now at a far cheaper price, than to go with a second contract veteran.

The idea that you build through the draft and not free agency is a common sense principle that everybody knows, yet we are so firmly convinced that St. Louis would do the exact opposite... even with a blue chip pick.

They have a lot of young core players on the roster they've drafted. Taking on ONE second contract player would be the worst thing in the world...you're right. The additional picks and their own picks in this draft are obviously not enough to help build that team. They need that ONE more. They need it. They do.

You act as though they are in KC's situation when KC started rebuilding to the present. There is one HUGE difference between us and them. They believe they have the single most important piece to the puzzle on their roster already. We don't, and won't anytime soon unless Stanzi is it.

Your thinking is flawed. You don't want KC to jump up to get a QB b/c it could set us back. News flash. All the talent on this roster will be wasted if KC doesn't get a legit QB.

Likewise, every year St. Louis isn't trying to win, is wasting the years of their franchise QB. So they build this team for "the future", how big is their window if you throw away the next 3+ yrs?

Not every team is as lucky as Indianapolis, they don't all luck into back to back legit franchise QB's.

[Bump]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

It would be awesome to get him, but you cant give up an entire draft for one guy.

Of course for KC, even if it turned out to be a giant fail ala Ricky Williams, its just another fail that can be added to the nearly two decades of fail seasons theyve already racked up.

Im fine either way. I doubt we get RG3, but if we do it will certainly be exciting to see how it turns out.

I figure Manning is KC's best shot at a real QB this year and thats a huge longshot.

Chiefs should just draft as strongly as they can this year, and try to make do with Orton, Stanzi, or worst case scenario Matt Cassel if they cannot get Manning.

you can for a franchise QB, something we've never had.

[ClevelandBronco]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

All of those late-season wins sure were nice.

Orton was a mole.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by aturnis

They have a lot of young core players on the roster they've drafted. Taking on ONE second contract player would be the worst thing in the world...you're right. The additional picks and their own picks in this draft are obviously not enough to help build that team. They need that ONE more. They need it. They do.

You act as though they are in KC's situation when KC started rebuilding to the present. There is one HUGE difference between us and them. They believe they have the single most important piece to the puzzle on their roster already. We don't, and won't anytime soon unless Stanzi is it.

Your thinking is flawed. You don't want KC to jump up to get a QB b/c it could set us back. News flash. All the talent on this roster will be wasted if KC doesn't get a legit QB.

Likewise, every year St. Louis isn't trying to win, is wasting the years of their franchise QB. So they build this team for "the future", how big is their window if you throw away the next 3+ yrs?

Not every team is as lucky as Indianapolis, they don't all luck into back to back legit franchise QB's.

You create your own luck. To think Indy could have brought in either Garrard or Orton but did not is quite telling.

[Epic Fail 007]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I'd rather wait until 2013. If you want a QB to test out, bring in Clausen--he's better than anyone you're going to find after Tannehill (who I think is a decent pick, but hell no if it's going to be at #11).

I think 2013 will end up being not a better class, but it's going to have a ton more second-tier first round talent (in my opinion, Tannehill is second round talent being forced into a #1 pick by desperate teams).

I see you already think we are going to be 2-14.

[Jerm]

I wish Pioli had Dimitroff's balls...he'd do it.

I see RGIII being a very successful NFL QB and one that can win a SB so IMO the price isn't too high.

You can make the argument we're one franchise QB away from going deep in the playoffs or even contending for a Super Bowl so why not take that chance? I would be just fine if we went for it and it didn't work out as opposed to not even trying.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by Bump

you can for a franchise QB, something we've never had.

Len Dawson wasn't a franchise QB? Three AFL Championships, two SBs, one SB win. NFL Hall of Fame. Not a franchise QB? Really?

[Epic Fail 007]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Actually I do get it. The point is the Giants took a chance and gave up what it took to get Eli (regardless of what it would take to get RGIII this year) and were richly rewarded for it. We play it safe even though 40 years of history says that way won't work for us.

Idiot the chargers wanted eli .But baby ass eli said I won`t play in SD so sd traded players with the giants who already drafted rivers.So if was not for eli crying he would be a charger.So wake up.And the playing it safe crap that is clearly giving you a hardon that was all Lamar hunt. That prick cared more about his other bussinesses than the chiefs.SO whats he do he hires the ultamate playing it safe guy in Carl peterson. So you need to go smoke some crack or whatever you do and calm the **** down and see how things play out.Now go night night.

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by splatbass

Len Dawson wasn't a franchise QB? Three AFL Championships, two SBs, one SB win. NFL Hall of Fame. Not a franchise QB? Really?

Yes. We've had 1. You win.

[Epic Fail 007]

Originally Posted by splatbass

Len Dawson wasn't a franchise QB? Three AFL Championships, two SBs, one SB win. NFL Hall of Fame. Not a franchise QB? Really?

Well really dawson was just a back up in pitsburgh. Hank wanted him to come run the system and he did very well yes. However dawson yet good was very average. Yes we won the sb but the d at that time was lights out. Dawson was just a system qb. See a trend? KC has had a long history of going and getting other teams backups and making them starters.

[BossChief]

1987

The last time a first round pick quarterback started for this team.

That can't be right, can it?

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by eric007

Well really dawson was just a back up in pitsburgh. Hank wanted him to come run the system and he did very well yes. However dawson yet good was very average. Yes we won the sb but the d at that time was lights out. Dawson was just a system qb. See a trend? KC has had a long history of going and getting other teams backups and making them starters.

Three AFL championships, two SBs (one win). Starter for more than ten years. That is the very definition of franchise QB.

Well really Favre was just a backup in Atlanta.

[evolve27]

We will draft an o-lineman in my head after trading down

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by splatbass

Three AFL championships, two SBs (one win). Starter for more than ten years. That is the very definition of franchise QB.

Well really Favre was just a backup in Atlanta.

Favre would have drank himself out of the league in Atlanta.