Chiefs The Pioli Poll - Page 10

Dr. Johnny Fever · 08-26-2012, 11:59 PM

I was excited when we hired Pioli. I was apparently an idiot.

What could go wrong? A guy from the front office of the best team in the NFL... executive of the year... a couple Super-Bowl teams he helped build. How was this not a major upgrade over Carl?

Long story short... do you still believe Peeholey can build a winning team or not?

(I know some didn't believe it from the start... geniuses)

*not this shit again*
**stupid thread moron**
***why do you even try to start football threads***
****tl;dr**** Pioli

htismaqe · 08-28-2012, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

Without going into records, injuries, etc. here it is.

2008 New England - Good

2009 - Haley Calling the Plays - Bad

2010 - Charlie Weis - Good

2011 - Todd Haley micromanaging/sometimes calling the plays - Bad

No running game to help Cassel in 2009 or 2011. It took forever in 2009 to put Charles in. He never put McClain at RB in 2011. He went with his boy Battle over McClain. He did nothing to help Cassel. He would have ****ed Orton up too.

His "boy" Battle was here when he got here. JFC, some of this is a real stretch.

Black Bob · 08-28-2012, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

His "boy" Battle was here when he got here. JFC, some of this is a real stretch.

Yeah but he went with him over McClain. Nothings a stretch there. We didn't score a rushing TD until week 8 or 9 in 2009. McClain almost rushed for 1,000 yards in Baltimore.

Tell me how in the **** he helped Cassel?

Name one thing that Haley did that makes us better today.

milkman · 08-28-2012, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBob

Without going into records, injuries, etc. here it is.

2008 New England - Good

2009 - Haley Calling the Plays - Bad

2010 - Charlie Weis - Good

2011 - Todd Haley micromanaging/sometimes calling the plays - Bad

No running game to help Cassel in 2009 or 2011. It took forever in 2009 to put Charles in. He never put McClain at RB in 2011. He went with his boy Battle over McClain. He did nothing to help Cassel. He would have ****ed Orton up too.

2008 NewEngland-NFC West schedule.

2009-Not the NFC West

2010-NFC West

2011-Not the NFC West

htismaqe · 08-28-2012, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

Yeah but he went with him over McClain. Nothings a stretch there. We didn't score a rushing TD until week 8 or 9 in 2009. McClain almost rushed for 1,000 yards in Baltimore.

Tell me how in the **** he helped Cassel?

Name one thing that Haley did that makes us better today.

They brought McClain in to play FB. He sucked, most likely due to lack of effort. He wasn't willing to HELP CASSEL by getting a ****ing block, why should he be expected to help Cassel by running the ball?

Oh yeah, because running the ball gets him his stats. **** LeRon McClain, he ain't a team player and he's gone.

Black Bob · 08-28-2012, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

2008 NewEngland-NFC West schedule.

2009-Not the NFC West

2010-NFC West

2011-Not the NFC West

Horseshit. I'm not saying Cassel doesn't only beat the good teams but Seattle beat New Orleans in the playoffs in 2010. Why did we beat Green Bay after Haley left? Were they just coming off the Superbowl victory? Were they undefeated? Haley ****ed Cassel up. It was all Haley but, it was at least 25% Haley.

Bewbies · 08-28-2012, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

His "boy" Battle was here when he got here. JFC, some of this is a real stretch.

You're arguing with the guy that wanted DeCastro due to his elite communication skills and pre-snap importance...

htismaqe · 08-28-2012, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

Horseshit. I'm not saying Cassel doesn't only beat the good teams but Seattle beat New Orleans in the playoffs in 2010. Why did we beat Green Bay after Haley left? Were they just coming off the Superbowl victory? Were they undefeated? Haley ****ed Cassel up. It was all Haley but, it was at least 25% Haley.

God ****ed Cassel up.

Haley just didn't coddle him enough...

Black Bob · 08-28-2012, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

They brought McClain in to play FB. He sucked, most likely due to lack of effort. He wasn't willing to HELP CASSEL by getting a ****ing block, why should he be expected to help Cassel by running the ball?

Oh yeah, because running the ball gets him his stats. **** LeRon McClain, he ain't a team player and he's gone.

We had a FB on the practice squad all year. Why? So McClain could play running back in a pinch. We were in a pinch when Charles went down. It quickly became clear the Jones was done and Battle sucked.

Haley did not play to the strengths of the players he had. He tried to fit a round peg in a square hole.

Black Bob · 08-28-2012, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies

You're arguing with the guy that wanted DeCastro due to his elite communication skills and pre-snap importance...

??? That's not me...

Bewbies · 08-28-2012, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

??? That's not me...

Busby.

milkman · 08-28-2012, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBob

Horseshit. I'm not saying Cassel doesn't only beat the good teams but Seattle beat New Orleans in the playoffs in 2010. Why did we beat Green Bay after Haley left? Were they just coming off the Superbowl victory? Were they undefeated? Haley ****ed Cassel up. It was all Haley but, it was at least 25% Haley.

It's well documented here.

Matt Cassel has won two games against playoff teams, one of which was that Seahawk team.

He has won 3(?) games against teams with winning records.

Haley didn't **** him up.

Good teams ****ed him up.

No, I take that back.
Good teams didn't **** him up, they just expose the fact that he is ****ed up.

milkman · 08-28-2012, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBob

We had a FB on the practice squad all year. Why? So McClain could play running back in a pinch. We were in a pinch when Charles went down. It quickly became clear the Jones was done and Battle sucked.

Haley did not play to the strengths of the players he had. He tried to fit a round peg in a square hole.

McClain, in his best season, averaged 3.9 ypc.
Battle averaged 4.0 ypc.

McClain would have been sooooo much better.

Black Bob · 08-28-2012, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

God ****ed Cassel up.

Haley just didn't coddle him enough...

He looked great with Weis.

Black Bob · 08-28-2012, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

McClain, in his best season, averaged 3.9 ypc.
Battle averaged 4.0 ypc.

McClain would have been sooooo much better.

McClain got 8 touches against Green Bay.

htismaqe · 08-28-2012, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

He looked great with Weis.

Great? Hardly.

He looked adequate with Weis. A perfect game manager.

When it came time for him to rise up and take the team on his shoulders, he wilted every time.

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Dr. Johnny Fever stax of wax Join Date: Feb 2004 Casino cash: $10004900	The Pioli Poll I was excited when we hired Pioli. I was apparently an idiot. What could go wrong? A guy from the front office of the best team in the NFL... executive of the year... a couple Super-Bowl teams he helped build. How was this not a major upgrade over Carl? Long story short... do you still believe Peeholey can build a winning team or not? (I know some didn't believe it from the start... geniuses) not this shit again stupid thread moron *why do you even try to start football threads* **tl;dr** Pioli
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