Chiefs Do the events of this weekend save Pioli's and Crennel's jobs? - Page 10

Deberg_1990 · 12-02-2012, 03:25 PM

Obviously lots of emotion today....Emotion probably won the game IMO.

Does that change anything in Clarks mind? The classy way that Pioli and Crennel have handled the past few days. I fear its going to cloud his judgement when the tough decisions need to be made in a few weeks.

Thoughts?

Hammock Parties · 12-02-2012, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Braincase

Both will want to get as far away from Kansas City as possible.

You think so?

O.city · 12-02-2012, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

You think so?

I really don't see how they could. After what went down, I'd think a change of scenery would be a good idea.

Hammock Parties · 12-02-2012, 08:23 PM

Romeo maybe.

Pioli probably sees this as a sign that HE WAS MEANT TO BE HERE

O.city · 12-02-2012, 08:25 PM

I think Romeo, retires. Pretty much a sure thing.

I don't really see a reason to keep Scott.

Time to start fresh.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-02-2012, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Romeo maybe.

Pioli probably sees this as a sign that HE WAS MEANT TO BE HERE

"Not good glue for the Right 53"!

Mr_Tomahawk · 12-02-2012, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I think Romeo, retires. Pretty much a sure thing.

I don't really see a reason to keep Scott.

Time to start fresh.

Thought you said it was a fact within the organization they would both be gone?

Why the speculation on your part when known facts are out there...?

Mr_Tomahawk · 12-02-2012, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Braincase

Both will want to get as far away from Kansas City as possible.

Crennel will retire.

Pioli will use this to his advantage to try to right the ship and add a badge to his girl scout sash...thing.

**doomy3** · 12-02-2012, 08:29 PM

I sure as shit hope not. These events don't change the fact that they are horrible at their jobs.

That said, it is interesting. Obama gained a considerable amount of votes and support just weeks before the election due to a tragedy (Sandy). People sometimes make terrible, emotional decisions when tragedy strikes.

Let's hope Clark isn't one of those people.

O.city · 12-02-2012, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Thought you said it was a fact within the organization they would both be gone?

Why the speculation on your part when known facts are out there...?

From what I've heard, most think he will be gone.

Now, on what exactly I think, I'm not so sure.

Chief Roundup · 12-02-2012, 08:30 PM

This tragedy doesn't change Pioli or Crennels football knowledge or the results that both have put on the field.

O.city · 12-02-2012, 08:35 PM

Now that I've given it some thought, I don't see how this really changes anything.

Yeah it's a tragedy that this happened in front of them. But they are still responsible for the product on the field.

Hell, you could argue that they are responsible for the player that did this.

I know that might sound cold, but ...

BigRock · 12-02-2012, 08:46 PM

They were discussing this on national radio earlier, either on ESPN or Yahoo. It was focused almost entirely on Romeo with very little on Pioli.

They agreed that, for football reasons, everyone deserved to be fired. They stipulated that there's a month left in the season and if KC loses out from here on, it'll be less of an issue.

But overall the thought was that they couldn't see firing a coach who, in December so it'll still be fresh at the end of the season, watched a player kill himself and then coached the team to a win the next day. Especially a coach who's as well-liked around the league as Romeo is. And what if they win another game or two on top of this? They looked at the schedule pointing out the Browns are bad, the Raiders have given up, and Denver might be resting Manning.

Their best-case idea seemed to be firing Pioli and keeping Romeo another year. Or that maybe Romeo would decide to walk away.

That's just one small sample. But if it's indicative of the national reaction at large, it's gonna be trouble.

Mr_Tomahawk · 12-02-2012, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRock

That's just one small sample. But if it's indicative of the national reaction at large, it's gonna be trouble.

Trouble for us in that Pioli will return...or trouble for Pioli in that he will be canned?

BigRock · 12-02-2012, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Trouble for us in that Pioli will return...or trouble for Pioli in that he will be canned?

Trouble for us if the media narrative becomes that firings are a bad idea. Even when bringing up the idea of firing Pioli and keeping Romeo, they softened on it when pointing out that Pioli was there too.

GoHuge · 12-02-2012, 09:37 PM

Pioli has to go. There's no two ways about it. Word is out across the NFL about what kind of man he is and how he treats people. There's a large number of players and personnel that will not come here because of Pioli. I don't have a scientific poll to back that up, but I think It's pretty obvious. Dude has gotta go for us to have a legit shot at all available people to try and make this team better....Pioli and his jackassedness stands in the way of that.

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12-02-2012, 08:29 PM	#143
doomy3 Supporter Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $5113539	I sure as shit hope not. These events don't change the fact that they are horrible at their jobs. That said, it is interesting. Obama gained a considerable amount of votes and support just weeks before the election due to a tragedy (Sandy). People sometimes make terrible, emotional decisions when tragedy strikes. Let's hope Clark isn't one of those people.
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12-02-2012, 08:30 PM	#145
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12-02-2012, 08:35 PM	#146
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2434064	Now that I've given it some thought, I don't see how this really changes anything. Yeah it's a tragedy that this happened in front of them. But they are still responsible for the product on the field. Hell, you could argue that they are responsible for the player that did this. I know that might sound cold, but ...
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12-02-2012, 08:46 PM	#147
BigRock Pritay Pritay Pritay Good Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The State of Euphoria Casino cash: $3095412	They were discussing this on national radio earlier, either on ESPN or Yahoo. It was focused almost entirely on Romeo with very little on Pioli. They agreed that, for football reasons, everyone deserved to be fired. They stipulated that there's a month left in the season and if KC loses out from here on, it'll be less of an issue. But overall the thought was that they couldn't see firing a coach who, in December so it'll still be fresh at the end of the season, watched a player kill himself and then coached the team to a win the next day. Especially a coach who's as well-liked around the league as Romeo is. And what if they win another game or two on top of this? They looked at the schedule pointing out the Browns are bad, the Raiders have given up, and Denver might be resting Manning. Their best-case idea seemed to be firing Pioli and keeping Romeo another year. Or that maybe Romeo would decide to walk away. That's just one small sample. But if it's indicative of the national reaction at large, it's gonna be trouble.
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12-02-2012, 09:37 PM	#150
GoHuge The Truth Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $10006072	Pioli has to go. There's no two ways about it. Word is out across the NFL about what kind of man he is and how he treats people. There's a large number of players and personnel that will not come here because of Pioli. I don't have a scientific poll to back that up, but I think It's pretty obvious. Dude has gotta go for us to have a legit shot at all available people to try and make this team better....Pioli and his jackassedness stands in the way of that.
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