Chiefs why Chiefs WRs have 0 TDs - Page 10

rabblerouser · 10-20-2014, 10:18 AM

Because when Dwayne Bowe is the clear-cut #1 (and it's not even close), you have a terrible WR corps.

Please feel free to post any .gifs of 2014 Chiefs WRs dropping passes that hit them squarely in the hands/chest and/or stepping out of bounds with a clear path to the end zone in front of them.

O.city · 10-21-2014, 01:40 PM

Yeah, he rolled left after he already chickened out and decided not to throw it downfield and check it down

temper11 · 10-21-2014, 04:35 PM

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I believe he stepped left looking down field towards kelce then had the worst fake ever(I may be spoiled after watching Trent green fakes) then tosses it to far out for Fasano.

it wasn't a fake. He hesitated. He was going to throw it then had a moments "it's 3rd down, need to find a higher percentage target" hesitation and didn't pull the trigger. Then he tried to go to Sherman for the first down and it was too late.

He should have pulled the trigger. I'm an admitted Smith apologist and typically give him the benefit of the doubt, but he should have pulled the trigger here to Kelce.

I honestly believe had this been on 2nd down and not 3rd he would have.

O.city · 10-21-2014, 04:45 PM

You don't make that throw on 2nd down if your worried about a pick. You either eat or or check it down and live for 3rd down.

You got what you want there with jenkins. The defender is trailing and towards the sideline on a post. Throw it away from the defender towards the post or the back pylon. It's either an incomoletion, the defender interferes with the wr and it's a deep play first down, a catch for a big gain or td, or at worst an incomoletion inside the 20, which is what happened on the next play when we punted.

The throw to kelce is a tough throw so in that situation, to me, you take the shot down the field.

O.city · 10-21-2014, 04:47 PM

And he ended up throwing it over Fasano s head, who paired with bowe are both actually open

temper11 · 10-21-2014, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

You don't make that throw on 2nd down if your worried about a pick. You either eat or or check it down and live for 3rd down.

You got what you want there with jenkins. The defender is trailing and towards the sideline on a post. Throw it away from the defender towards the post or the back pylon. It's either an incomoletion, the defender interferes with the wr and it's a deep play first down, a catch for a big gain or td, or at worst an incomoletion inside the 20, which is what happened on the next play when we punted.

The throw to kelce is a tough throw so in that situation, to me, you take the shot down the field.

I don't think he would have been worried about a pick if it were second down. I don't think he is as afraid of picks as everyone else says that he is. I think he just takes calculated risks. If it were second, I think he probably pulls the trigger and most likely overthrows AJJ (making sure that either AJJ catches it or no one catches it) or hits Kelce depending on which one he would have gone to. Since it was 3rd, I think he hesitated - needing to satisfy the game manager in him that was probably screaming... "don't chuck it deep (even though there are some open receivers), take the higher percentage pass and move the chains."

I think he should have just let it go. Take the shot. **** it.

rabblerouser · 10-21-2014, 05:40 PM

Yeah he shit the bed on that play. That was an ugly win.

They need a real #1, like an AJ Green. Look how legitimate Dalton looks WITH Green...

And look at what a turd he is without him.

ThaVirus · 10-21-2014, 05:43 PM

Alex is ALWAYS worried about a pick.

rabblerouser · 10-21-2014, 05:44 PM

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Alex is ALWAYS worried about a pick.

If I was throwing to Jenkins and Hemingway, I would be too.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-21-2014, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

If I was throwing to Jenkins and Hemingway, I would be too.

His "pick aversion" precedes KC.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-21-2014, 06:55 PM

Jesus, if Alex were to throw a fade in to traffic( or anything for that matter )on a regular basis, I might possibly be inclined to shut the **** up about him for a while.

As it stands, his version of "open" sucks Marvin Schwetty's balls.

ThaVirus · 10-21-2014, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

If I was throwing to Jenkins and Hemingway, I would be too.

Why? Has a pass thrown to either of the two ever resulted in an INT that was their fault?

chiefzilla1501 · 10-21-2014, 07:03 PM

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Makes me want to puke.

He's been playing "well" but the more I see the more I can't help but feel he is limiting our offense.

It's the hot thing to say that he never has enough time or that the receivers aren't getting open but we've clearly seen so many gifs and stills of our guys "open" by NFL standards on plays that he takes a sack or scrambles for a half yard.

I like that his conservative style usually keeps us from getting blown out but I want to win some games convincingly. We'll need to him to start being more aggressive in order to do so against the better teams.

Judiciously aggressive. That's what he needs to be.

I mean, we can harp on him all we want. He missed too many shots in the game.

But he was 4-5 on 3rd downs in the second half (not counting the final 3rd down, which was a throwaway situation). As long as he hits on 3rd down, that excuses a few missed shots here and there. That is insanely good 3rd down efficiency.

ThaVirus · 10-21-2014, 07:38 PM

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I mean, we can harp on him all we want. He missed too many shots in the game.

But he was 4-5 on 3rd downs in the second half (not counting the final 3rd down, which was a throwaway situation). As long as he hits on 3rd down, that excuses a few missed shots here and there. That is insanely good 3rd down efficiency.

It's great. He's lead a very efficient offense this year. It's hard to argue.

I'm just wondering how sustainable this success is without using the entire field.

-King- · 10-21-2014, 07:44 PM

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I still contend that the WR's are getting open.

Take this single play for instance. Jenkins is NFL open deep down the field. Bowe is open albeit the middle lber is following the qbs eyes

Jenkins wasn't open at all. At best you can say Bowe was open. But Jenkins? Hell no. YOu can't even see the defender. From that angle, if Jenkins had a step, you would absolutely be able to see seperation.

-King- · 10-21-2014, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Yeah he shit the bed on that play. That was an ugly win.

They need a real #1, like an AJ Green. Look how legitimate Dalton looks WITH Green...

And look at what a turd he is without him.

He's just doing what's in the script.

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