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[big nasty kcnut]

Did yoiu guys see the ecw guys on raw getting pissed that vince won the ecw belts and tommy speaking from his heart. I so want to see them kill vince soul tomorrow.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Saggysack

Wrong. The simple fact that it is physical activity accompanied with being competitive, makes it a sport. I know some people think it isn't hard driving a race car. But I'll tell you this. Most successful race car drivers you will find are finely tuned athletes, yes that is right, athletes. The shear amount of stamina and strength it takes to get behind the wheel for 500 miles in 130-140 degree heat, while constantly using every part of your body to get that car into a corner at 160mph without ending up at a deadstop at the top of the corner, all the while trying to come first across the finish line is quite the physical accomplishment. A race car driver can lose over 15-20lbs of weight in a 500 mile race. Name me one other sport that can cause that in 4hrs. Anyway...

Quite a bit different level than a C rate scripted theatrical performance.

Just out of curiosity..........if a Nascar driver has athletic talent then so does a wrestler, I think some people say shit without ever seeing what guys do in the ring.

[jlscorpio]

Slightly off-topic: has anyone else seen the DVD on the Von Erich's and the rise/demise of World Class Wrestling? All I can say is GREAT, GREAT, GREAT wrestling documentary. For those of you too young to recall the territory days, it gives an awesome perspective of what it was like to be a completely on-fire promotion back in the glory days. Also does a good job of showing how David Von Erich would have been one of the all-time greats had he not died so young. I always thought he would have been a more skilled version of the Funker.

[Mecca]

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[Abba-Dabba]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Just out of curiosity..........if a Nascar driver has athletic talent then so does a wrestler, I think some people say shit without ever seeing what guys do in the ring.

Never said a wrestler doesn't have athletic talent. It's quite obvious they do.

Although, I find it hard to call wrestling a sport for the scripted performances. It's that whole unscripted competing thing that kinda make other things a sport.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Saggysack

Wrong. The simple fact that it is physical activity accompanied with being competitive, makes it a sport. I know some people think it isn't hard driving a race car. But I'll tell you this. Most successful race car drivers you will find are finely tuned athletes, yes that is right, athletes. The shear amount of stamina and strength it takes to get behind the wheel for 500 miles in 130-140 degree heat, while constantly using every part of your body to get that car into a corner at 160mph without ending up at a deadstop at the top of the corner, all the while trying to come first across the finish line is quite the physical accomplishment. A race car driver can lose over 15-20lbs of weight in a 500 mile race. Name me one other sport that can cause that in 4hrs. Anyway...

Quite a bit different level than a C rate scripted theatrical performance.

If NASCAR is a sport, so is World of Warcraft.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Post 153 is so fucking awesome, but DAMN that crowd seemed DEAD.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Just out of curiosity..........if a Nascar driver has athletic talent then so does a wrestler, I think some people say shit without ever seeing what guys do in the ring.

Re: Athletic Ability in Wrestling:

Lawrence Taylor, widely considered among the greatest athletes of all time, headlined WM XI against Bam Bam Bigelow. The match went a little bit over 10 minutes. After the match was over, Taylor was so exhausted that he could barely raise his arm above his head in victory. Bigelow, who outweighed LT considerably, was hardly winded.

If someone thinks that Professional Wrestlers aren't athletes, they are completely out of their mind.

Of course, we know that just because one is an athlete it doesn't mean that they are competing in a sport. That's where a large deal of the confusion comes from.

[Swanman]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Re: Athletic Ability in Wrestling:

Lawrence Taylor, widely considered among the greatest athletes of all time, headlined WM XI against Bam Bam Bigelow. The match went a little bit over 10 minutes. After the match was over, Taylor was so exhausted that he could barely raise his arm above his head in victory. Bigelow, who outweighed LT considerably, was hardly winded.

If someone thinks that Professional Wrestlers aren't athletes, they are completely out of their mind.

Of course, we know that just because one is an athlete it doesn't mean that they are competing in a sport. That's where a large deal of the confusion comes from.

Rodman couldn't get out of bed the day after his match in WCW where he took a grand total of one bump in the entire match. It takes a whole different kind of athlete to punish their bodies so much and keep going.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Post 153 is so fucking awesome, but DAMN that crowd seemed DEAD.

I think his sound on his camera just sucks, Henry is doing those splashes and you can't hear the ring. So I guess he's just getting himself and the people right around him.

[unothadeal]

Edge's music is so gay.

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by Saggysack

Name me one other sport that can cause that in 4hrs. Anyway..

pro football players in the heat of the afternoon in two-a-days

yeah, them drivers are athletes

['Hamas' Jenkins]

[Abba-Dabba]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

If NASCAR is a sport, so is World of Warcraft.

I don't think I have ever seen such a dumber statement concerning Nascar than what you have posted. It's clearly obvious you are biased and can't be impartial. In otherwords, your opinion on the subject has about much merit as a 3yr old.

Are entertainment wrestlers athletes? Yes.

Are Nascar drivers athletes? Yes.

Does one run on scripted performance where the outcomes are known to the participants? Yes. Does the other have a set rules governing competition accompanied with the physical activity of driving a race car, without being scripted? Yes. Which would you consider a sport based on those observations?

[Abba-Dabba]

Originally Posted by H5N1

pro football players in the heat of the afternoon in two-a-days

yeah, them drivers are athletes

15-20lbs with extended water breaks and breakfast/lunch/dinner breaks? So when is it exactly they are losing this mass amount of weight in a 4hr time span? When they are standing in line taking turns at the sleds, or when shuffling off the field between 2nd and 3rd string. Maybe it's when they are BS'ing on the sidelines.

Again, I'll ask. Name me one sport that has the physical demands of driving a race for 4 straight hrs. This is such a easy one, you should be able to get it.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Saggysack

I don't think I have ever seen such a dumber statement concerning Nascar than what you have posted. It's clearly obvious you are biased and can't be impartial. In otherwords, your opinion on the subject has about much merit as a 3yr old.

Are entertainment wrestlers athletes? Yes.

Are Nascar drivers athletes? Yes.

Does one run on scripted performance where the outcomes are known to the participants? Yes. Does the other have a set rules governing competition accompanied with the physical activity of driving a race car, without being scripted? Yes. Which would you consider a sport based on those observations?

NASCAR is based entirely upon quick reactions and maintaining and mastering a machine while competing against others who are also using machines.

What is the difference between that and a video game??

Moreover, if they are so dissimilar, then why do nearly all NASCAR drivers use video games to simulate tracks and track conditions.

Lest I remind you of an entire Outside the Lines devoted to said topic.

Furthermore, I suggest that you learn to read and or comprehend, as I never said Pro Wrestling was a sport; it's an athletic competition. Additionally, NASCAR is also not a sport, it's an activity based upon the aforementioned reaction times, just like video games.