Sac's 2012 End of Season Mock

[Saccopoo]

1. Peter Konz, C; Wisconsin: 6'3", 313 lbs.
- Yep, it's a ten pick reach at minimum, but Casey Wiegmann, while one of the best at his position during his career, is sniffing 40 and contemplated retirement before this past season. Rather than moving Hudson to center, keep him at guard (where he was a three time ACC first teamer & AP AA) and get a guy like Konz when you have the chance. He's big, physical and has the strength to handle even the biggest defensive tackles. I don't know if he's as good as Alex Mack at the same stage, but he reminds me a lot of him.



Other options would include OT's Riley Rieff or Jon Martin; ILB's Luke Kuechly or Dont'a Hightower (no Burfict as he hasn't shown the instincts to play at the next level or the capability to be anything other than a 15 yard personal foul waiting to happen).

2. Matt Reynolds, OT; BYU: 6'6", 330 lbs.
- Reynolds is a four year starter, and three year conference first teamer at left tackle. This also might be a bit of a reach, but he won't last beyond the second round and is most likely a better pro prospect than any offensive tackle beyond the top three. He's very athletic for a guy his size and could effectively play either side of the line. Plays nasty and through the whistle. Barry Richardson might be the worst starting offensive tackle in the NFL and the position needs to be addressed immediately. If the Chiefs don't get a shot at one of the top three in the first round, it needs to be addressed here - and Pioli has also shown the propensity to draft offensive line in the second round.



3. Derrek Wolfe, DT; Cincinatti: 6'5", 310 lbs.
- Initially, I would have loved the Chiefs to have picked up Wolfe in the 5th round, but after a monster 2011 season where he had 19.5 tackles for a loss and 9.5 sacks from the defensive tackle position for the Bearcats, he's going to be a riser, especially at the 3-4 defensive end spot where his length and speed to go along with his size are damn near prototype for the position. Jackson flashed a couple times in 2011 for the Chiefs, but Dorsey just looks like a "guy" out there and has a tendency to get absolutely engulfed by NFL guards.



4. Vick Ballard, RB; Mississippi State: 5'11", 215 lbs.
- With teams loading the box in an effort to stop him (because the Bulldogs didn't have much else offensively), Ballard still managed over 1000 yards on a 5.6 yards per carry. He's physically solid with good muscle mass and has very good vision. Is effective inside as well as out and is a good receiver. He went for 180 yards and two TD's in the Music City Bowl to close out his college career. He's a really good runnning back that would effectively fill the Thomas Jones spot in the lineup.



5. Tank Carder, MLB; TCU; 6'2", 240 lbs.
- With the two best blocking tight ends (Lutzenkirchen and Williams) going back to school for the 2013 season, this gets changed to linebacking stud Carder, who is the two-time MWC Defensive Player of the Year. Very instinctive and fundamentally sound, he was asked to do a lot in the middle playing in TCU's oddball 4-2-5 defense. Is effective in both coverage and filling the gaps on runs. Likes to put the big hit on carriers, but also plays smart. Is long and would be capable of carrying more weight to play inside in a 34. MVP of the 2011 Rosebowl when TCU beat a very good Wisconsin team. The guy can play some football.



6. Sean Cattouse, SS; California: 6'2", 215 lbs.
- With the loss of Berry at the start of the season, it highlighted the lack of depth that the Chiefs have at the strong safety position. McGraw has superb instincts but runs like he's in molasses. Sabby was a stopgap because of the injury. Cattouse has been solid for the Bears all season and one of the few bright spots on their defense. He's big, fast, likes to put the big hit on guys and has the tools to be an effective player with coaching. This is what you want in a backup strong safety.



7. Nick Provo, TE; Syracuse: 6'4", 250 lbs.
- Originally this was Caleb McSurdy, ILB; Montana, but with the pick of Carder in the fifth, another productive tight end on the roster is needed. Provo was First Team All-Big East in 2011 and set the Syracuse school record for career receptions for a tight end despite really only getting onto the field his junior and senior seasons. A Mackey semi-finalist in 2011.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

No dumber than taking a safety in the top five.

It's a position that can and usually is filled with guys that can be found later in the draft and a position that is associated with a shorter longevity because of heightened injury potential. (Case in point - Berry. If he comes back from the knee injury and is fine, great. But what if he doesn't? Was it the right pick then? And to this point, he's been primarily a run defender and a liability in the passing game. I like the kid a lot, but let's not go annoitting him the next Paul Krause after one mixed rookie season. And yeah, he went to the Pro Bowl, but so did Matt Cassel.) How often has Polamalu and Bob Sanders been injured over their careers?

Get the **** out with the bashing on Eric Berry. He was a legit ROY candidate. and STFD.

[veist]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

Still hating on Berry...hilarious.

A 'mixed rookie season'?

He had one of the best rookie seasons any safety has ever had. Ever. He was the second best player on the field for us in the playoff game, as a rookie.

Jesus ****, man. Berry was drafted because he had been a star his whole damn life from high school to college, and everyone but you could see it. And he wasn't injured because he's a hard hitting safety. He was injured because some dick bag took a cheap shot at his knee.

You're so spectacularly ****ing wrong about things. But now you want us to draft a center a #11...and a 3rd round guard in the 2nd to be a RT? Those are 'smart ideas' to you, but drafting Berry wasn't?

**** me

Reynolds isn't even a 3rd round prospect, he's getting just killed at the shrine game practices.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by LiL stumppy

Games are won up front, if you don't believe that, you have no real football knowledge. Simple.

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Games are won under center.

You win games in the trenches.

You win championships behind the trenches.

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

No dumber than taking a safety in the top five.

It's a position that can and usually is filled with guys that can be found later in the draft and a position that is associated with a shorter longevity because of heightened injury potential. (Case in point - Berry. If he comes back from the knee injury and is fine, great. But what if he doesn't? Was it the right pick then? And to this point, he's been primarily a run defender and a liability in the passing game. I like the kid a lot, but let's not go annoitting him the next Paul Krause after one mixed rookie season. And yeah, he went to the Pro Bowl, but so did Matt Cassel.) How often has Polamalu and Bob Sanders been injured over their careers?

I've already addressed this elswhere, but I'll go ahead and touch on here again.

You ignore the progress Berry made as a pass defender because it doesn't fit your agenda.

Troy Palomaulu, Ed Reed, Darren Sharper Bob Sanders and Donte Whitner to a lesser extent belie your positional value argument.

That being said, I think center is undervalued and could get behind the idea of taking Knnz, if we could trade down.

But I also think Chris Myers or Nick Hardwick would be better options through free agency.

[O.city]

Whats the story with Brewster? Could he be had in the second?

I am endorsing either trading down or just picking Tannehill if he is there. If he's not just take who ever you want just to make sure you get him.

I know one thing, if Hightower is around in the second we better take him. The dude is built to be the perfect thumper next to DJ. I like Belcher and all but Hightower would make this Lb core Steelers of the past 4 or 5 years good.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by jd1020

I can only think of 2. C/G, since Weigmann will hopefully retire now, depending on where the Chiefs want to go with Hudson and RT, because Richardson is worse than Tebow at his position.

I can't see anyone else starting at any position on the roster, injuries aside. The only other one I could possibly see being a potential position for a rookie to start is at CB, if Carr is not re-signed.

Is it so unrealistic to see 2 rookies, who will likely be high draft picks, starting?

This team needs depth. The starters on this team are, overall, very capable. The problem is the depth is horrible.

There's still the issue of NT, ILB, CB, WR, FB. We also have no depth at S, TE, RB.

With the number of snaps KC stands to lose through FA, they need to be smart about how they fill openings. O line happens to be the easiest to fill with quality this year via FA.

Even assuming we re-sign Carr, Bowe, and Belcher, we still have no NT, blocking TE, or FB.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

No dumber than taking a safety in the top five.

It's a position that can and usually is filled with guys that can be found later in the draft and a position that is associated with a shorter longevity because of heightened injury potential. (Case in point - Berry. If he comes back from the knee injury and is fine, great. But what if he doesn't? Was it the right pick then? And to this point, he's been primarily a run defender and a liability in the passing game. I like the kid a lot, but let's not go annoitting him the next Paul Krause after one mixed rookie season. And yeah, he went to the Pro Bowl, but so did Matt Cassel.) How often has Polamalu and Bob Sanders been injured over their careers?

Using injuries as a reason for Berry being a bad pick is so far past dumb that I dont even know where to start.

Oh, yeah I do.

Your dumbass wanted us to draft Okung who has missed 10 games to injury and hasn't been anything special when he has played.

Berry > all of your picks
Albert > Okung

Case closed.

If we move down into the late teens or early 20s, Konz would be a damn good pick...at 11, it would be overspending.

Hudson gives us the versatility to sit back till the second or third round to pick the best guard or center available and let Hudson take over the other spot.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by jspchief

There's still the issue of NT, ILB, CB, WR, FB. We also have no depth at S, TE, RB.

With the number of snaps KC stands to lose through FA, they need to be smart about how they fill openings. O line happens to be the easiest to fill with quality this year via FA.

Even assuming we re-sign Carr, Bowe, and Belcher, we still have no NT, blocking TE, or FB.

So just assume that we resign McClain, then, by your count we're only short a blocking TE and a NT. Both of which are available in the draft.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Using injuries as a reason for Berry being a bad pick is so far past dumb that I dont even know where to start.

Oh, yeah I do.

Your dumbass wanted us to draft Okung who has missed 10 games to injury and hasn't been anything special when he has played.

Berry > all of your picks
Albert > Okung

Case closed.

If we move down into the late teens or early 20s, Konz would be a damn good pick...at 11, it would be overspending.

Hudson gives us the versatility to sit back till the second or third round to pick the best guard or center available and let Hudson take over the other spot.

This. Except I think that unless we get our RT early and a stud g/c falls, we go into next season with Hudson at center and Lilja at guard.

This line has been an obvious problem since Pioli got here, and he only seems willing to add one new piece a year.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

Still hating on Berry...hilarious.

A 'mixed rookie season'?

He had one of the best rookie seasons any safety has ever had. Ever. He was the second best player on the field for us in the playoff game, as a rookie.

Jesus ****, man. Berry was drafted because he had been a star his whole damn life from high school to college, and everyone but you could see it. And he wasn't injured because he's a hard hitting safety. He was injured because some dick bag took a cheap shot at his knee.

You're so spectacularly ****ing wrong about things. But now you want us to draft a center a #11...and a 3rd round guard in the 2nd to be a RT? Those are 'smart ideas' to you, but drafting Berry wasn't?

**** me

This is why you are an idiot.

Berry was a high school quarterback who got signed as an "athlete" to Tenessee. The guy didn't even have an official position when he got there.

And I had no problem with the Chiefs taking him when they did. They had a hole at safety and it filled a need. However, he was far from a finished product and it showed his rookie year as he was singularly responsible for a number of touchdowns in the passing game. He ended the season as essentially a third middle linebacker.

And now you are saying that Reynolds is a third round guard after he has played the left tackle position his entire college career which netted him a first team freshman All-American selection and three consectutive first team All-Conference selections at the left tackle position. But now he's a guard.

You must be a ****ing football genius. Because you read one bloggers take after one post season practice.

I don't know what you do in life, but you are wasting yourself. You should be running a scout team for the best team in the NFL because you are so ****ing balls out right about everything NFL.

I apologize that I put out this mock because you are right and everyone else is wrong. And I am obviously in that second group.

I bow to your kick ass scouting skills. You know more than everyone.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Hudson gives us the versatility to sit back till the second or third round to pick the best guard or center available and let Hudson take over the other spot.

And Hudson has shown enough at the center position, at either the college or NFL level, to justify this statement?

[BigMeatballDave]

LOL just admit you are wrong about Berry

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by veist

Reynolds isn't even a 3rd round prospect, he's getting just killed at the shrine game practices.

Is he?:

An offensive tackle who bounced back on Tuesday after a disappointing first day was BYU offensive tackle Matt Reynolds. He fared well in his one-on-one matchups with Ole Miss defensive end Kentrell Lockett and Laval's Gascon-Nadon. Reynolds (6-4, 310) stonewalled Gascon-Nadon's bull rush and mirrored Lockett to stand him up away from the quarterback marker. In the team scrimmage, Reynolds continued his strong play with a nice run block, reaching the second level to give a shot to the Mike linebacker. Reynolds also did well in pass protection on some plays in the full team scrimmage. He needed a good practice and most definitely did.

So, ****nut, are you there watching the practices?

Or are you just some dumb ****er spouting off about one sentence shit you read on the intranets?

Are you there watching him "get killed?"

Seriously.

What are you basing your "he's getting killed" insight on?

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Dave

LOL just admit you are wrong about Berry

How am I wrong about Berry?

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

How am I wrong about Berry?

I suppose you still think Okung was the better pick?

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Dave

I suppose you still think Okung was the better pick?

And that says nothing about how I was "wrong" about Berry.

But, please, continue to that end.

What are you getting at? Are you comparing the players? Attempting to compare the players?