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Mile High Mania · 12-19-2014, 09:32 AM

Yeah, you wanna see a great QB carry a team with 'iffy' defenses, look at the late 80s and Denver.

IND had losses in 2003 and 2004 @ NE, one for the AFCC and another in the Div round.

This is no slight to NE, because you fight for home field advantage. Since 2001, they've played in (I believe) 26 playoff games. 5 were SBs ... so 21 games that would not be a neutral site, and only 6 of those were on the road.

15 home and 6 on the road - and they are 3-3 on the road.

They've done well.

Hootie · 12-19-2014, 09:40 AM

What a hypocrite. These guys post that one article from a website called 'coldhardfootballfacts' and treat it as gospel. It's a fanboy blog. Nothing more.

Please, explain to me Brady's postseason ineptitude the last 10 years. That's all I ask.

And the Brady overthrow / Welker drop never would have happened had Lee Evans caught a pass in the AFCCG where Brady was a total abortion.

Please, Annorix, try to not mention Peyton Manning in your rebuttal here:

Why has Tom Brady been awarded a decade of passes for abysmal postseason performance? Why does he get to lose home playoff games to guys like Mark Sanchez and Joe Flacco and continually underperform yet face no criticism for being a great regular season QB but a so so playoff QB?

Still waiting for an actual answer.

Hootie · 12-19-2014, 09:42 AM

And I didn't realize Tom Brady doubled as the kicker 10 years ago and made all of those clutch, Super Bowl winning kicks. That was a badass snow kick by him in the tuck rule game. Man, he used to be so clutch as a game managing QB / clutchest postseason kicker ever a decade ago

Hootie · 12-19-2014, 11:15 AM

because I'm the one quoting 'coldhardfootballfacts.com' and acting like it is fact and not just some fanboy blog?

I mean, I've had like 5 different Patriots fans link me to that one article on that one website I've never even heard of.

Wow. Stunning.

ALL I WANT TO KNOW IS WHY TOM BRADY HAS GOTTEN 10 YEARS OF PASSES FOR POSTSEASON INEPTITUDE THAT INCLUDES BLOWING 19-0, LOSING TO MARK SANCHEZ AND JOE FLACCO, AT HOME (FLACCO MORE THAN ONCE), PLAYING PUTRID FOOTBALL AND ALMOST BLOWING ANTOHER AFCCG IF NOT FOR LEE EVANS DROPPING TWO TD PASSES ON THE RAVENS FINAL DRIVE WITH NO TIME REMAINING (AND THEN BLOWING ANOTHER SUPER BOWL THE FOLLOWING WEEK), BLOWING AN 18 POINT LEAD IN THE AFCCG TO PEYTON MANNING THAT INCLUDED A GAME ENDING PICK IN INDIANAPOLIS TERRITORY, ETC...

WHY DOES TOM BRADY GET EXCUSES ANYMORE?

HE HAS PLAYED HIS WORST FOOTBALL IN THE POSTSEASON FOR 10+ YEARS NOW. HE HAS LOST GAME AFTER GAME IN WHICH THEY WERE FAVORED TO WIN.

WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME NEW ENGLAND WASN'T FAVORED IN THE POSTSEASON?

THEY WERE FAVORED TO BEAT THE GIANTS IN THE SUPER BOWL BY 13.5 POINTS AND BRADY PUT UP A WHOPPING 14 POINTS WITH RANDY MOSS, WES WELKER, DONTE STALLWORTH AND AN OFFENSE THAT BROKE EVERY RECORD ALL YEAR LONG AND NEVER LOST A SINGLE GAME AGAINST A SPREAD AND THEY WERE FAVORED EVERY GAME ALL YEAR LONG.

WHY IS HE STILL GETTING PASSES?

BECAUSE HE WAS A GREAT GAME MANAGER WHEN THE PATS HAD THE BEST DEFENSE IN THE NFL (ACCORDING TO THESE SAME PATRIOTS FANS) IN 2001, 2003 AND 2004 (NOT TO MENTION SPYGATE)?

HE GETS PASSES FOR BEING A GAME MANAGER 10+ YEARS AGO?

WHY?

WHY?

PLEASE, SOMEONE ANSWER THIS.

WHY IS TOM BRADY STILL GETTING PASSES FOR FAILING IN THE POSTSEASON 10 YEARS IN A ROW ... IN GAMES HE HAS BEEN FAVORED IN ALMOST EVERY SINGLE TIME?

I NEED AN ANSWER. I DON'T WANT THE ANSWER TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH PEYTON MANNING.

GIVE ME AN ANSWER.

Hootie · 12-19-2014, 01:59 PM

...didn't think so

Mile High Mania · 12-19-2014, 02:31 PM

I dunno, since winning their 3rd SB...

The Patriots are 11-9 in the playoffs.
0-2 in SuperBowls played
2-3 in AFC Championship games

So, since winning 3, they've played for the right to go again 5 times - getting there two more times. That's fairly impressive.

Hootie · 12-19-2014, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

I dunno, since winning their 3rd SB...

The Patriots are 11-9 in the playoffs.
0-2 in SuperBowls played
2-3 in AFC Championship games

So, since winning 3, they've played for the right to go again 5 times - getting there two more times. That's fairly impressive.

What is Manning's playoff record since Brady's last Super Bowl?

MagicHef · 12-19-2014, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

What is Manning's playoff record since Brady's last Super Bowl?

8-7
3-0 in AFC Championships
1-2 in Super Bowls

Just Passin' By · 12-19-2014, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

I dunno, since winning their 3rd SB...

The Patriots are 11-9 in the playoffs.
0-2 in SuperBowls played
2-3 in AFC Championship games

So, since winning 3, they've played for the right to go again 5 times - getting there two more times. That's fairly impressive.

Hootie is a Peyton ball washer who can't handle Manning's sidekick status, so he trolls on and on about the Patriots. It's sad and hilarious at the same time.

Mile High Mania · 12-19-2014, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Hootie is a Peyton ball washer who can't handle Manning's sidekick status, so he trolls on and on about the Patriots. It's sad and hilarious at the same time.

I just don't see the point debating the two - they both kick a lot of ass. Brady's been to 5, won 3 and Manning's been to 3, won 1 - both have 2 SB losses.

Hootie · 12-19-2014, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Hootie is a Peyton ball washer who can't handle Manning's sidekick status, so he trolls on and on about the Patriots. It's sad and hilarious at the same time.

I'm the one posting facts. I'm still waiting for an answer. Since, there is no rebuttal, I realize I'll never get one.

The last 10 years, since Tom Brady started trying to stat whore like Peyton, he has been absolutely abysmal in the postseason and has lost 8 games in which the Pats were the favorites.

Please explain, I'M BEGGING YOU, why he's still getting passes?

PizzaDoughz · 12-20-2014, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I'm the one posting facts. I'm still waiting for an answer. Since, there is no rebuttal, I realize I'll never get one.

The last 10 years, since Tom Brady started trying to stat whore like Peyton, he has been absolutely abysmal in the postseason and has lost 8 games in which the Pats were the favorites.

Please explain, I'M BEGGING YOU, why he's still getting passes?

I hate the Donks and manning with a passion. But I'm going to agree with Hootie here. Peyton has simply been a lot better in both the regular season and post season lately. Actually he's almost always better in the regular season

Hootie · 12-19-2014, 02:53 PM

And when was the last time Manning lost to Brady in the playoffs?

Is it possible that Tom Brady fits the billing of playoff choker more than Peyton Manning since Tom could only win the big one when all he was asked to do was manage games?

Mile High Mania · 12-19-2014, 03:17 PM

Don't know and don't care quite honestly... I'm done looking at NE playoff stats.

**The Franchise** · 12-19-2014, 03:21 PM

Adam Vinatieri got robbed of SB MVP a bunch of times.

View Poll Results: 2014 MVP
DeMarco Murray	16	13.22%
Aaron Rodgers	50	41.32%
Tom Brady	10	8.26%
Andrew Luck	2	1.65%
Peyton Manning	2	1.65%
J.J. Watt	36	29.75%
other	5	4.13%
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12-19-2014, 09:32 AM	#1
Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $2687229	Yeah, you wanna see a great QB carry a team with 'iffy' defenses, look at the late 80s and Denver. IND had losses in 2003 and 2004 @ NE, one for the AFCC and another in the Div round. This is no slight to NE, because you fight for home field advantage. Since 2001, they've played in (I believe) 26 playoff games. 5 were SBs ... so 21 games that would not be a neutral site, and only 6 of those were on the road. 15 home and 6 on the road - and they are 3-3 on the road. They've done well. __________________
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12-19-2014, 09:40 AM	#2
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	What a hypocrite. These guys post that one article from a website called 'coldhardfootballfacts' and treat it as gospel. It's a fanboy blog. Nothing more. Please, explain to me Brady's postseason ineptitude the last 10 years. That's all I ask. And the Brady overthrow / Welker drop never would have happened had Lee Evans caught a pass in the AFCCG where Brady was a total abortion. Please, Annorix, try to not mention Peyton Manning in your rebuttal here: Why has Tom Brady been awarded a decade of passes for abysmal postseason performance? Why does he get to lose home playoff games to guys like Mark Sanchez and Joe Flacco and continually underperform yet face no criticism for being a great regular season QB but a so so playoff QB? Still waiting for an actual answer.
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12-19-2014, 09:42 AM	#3
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	And I didn't realize Tom Brady doubled as the kicker 10 years ago and made all of those clutch, Super Bowl winning kicks. That was a badass snow kick by him in the tuck rule game. Man, he used to be so clutch as a game managing QB / clutchest postseason kicker ever a decade ago
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12-19-2014, 11:15 AM	#4
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	because I'm the one quoting 'coldhardfootballfacts.com' and acting like it is fact and not just some fanboy blog? I mean, I've had like 5 different Patriots fans link me to that one article on that one website I've never even heard of. Wow. Stunning. ALL I WANT TO KNOW IS WHY TOM BRADY HAS GOTTEN 10 YEARS OF PASSES FOR POSTSEASON INEPTITUDE THAT INCLUDES BLOWING 19-0, LOSING TO MARK SANCHEZ AND JOE FLACCO, AT HOME (FLACCO MORE THAN ONCE), PLAYING PUTRID FOOTBALL AND ALMOST BLOWING ANTOHER AFCCG IF NOT FOR LEE EVANS DROPPING TWO TD PASSES ON THE RAVENS FINAL DRIVE WITH NO TIME REMAINING (AND THEN BLOWING ANOTHER SUPER BOWL THE FOLLOWING WEEK), BLOWING AN 18 POINT LEAD IN THE AFCCG TO PEYTON MANNING THAT INCLUDED A GAME ENDING PICK IN INDIANAPOLIS TERRITORY, ETC... WHY DOES TOM BRADY GET EXCUSES ANYMORE? HE HAS PLAYED HIS WORST FOOTBALL IN THE POSTSEASON FOR 10+ YEARS NOW. HE HAS LOST GAME AFTER GAME IN WHICH THEY WERE FAVORED TO WIN. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME NEW ENGLAND WASN'T FAVORED IN THE POSTSEASON? THEY WERE FAVORED TO BEAT THE GIANTS IN THE SUPER BOWL BY 13.5 POINTS AND BRADY PUT UP A WHOPPING 14 POINTS WITH RANDY MOSS, WES WELKER, DONTE STALLWORTH AND AN OFFENSE THAT BROKE EVERY RECORD ALL YEAR LONG AND NEVER LOST A SINGLE GAME AGAINST A SPREAD AND THEY WERE FAVORED EVERY GAME ALL YEAR LONG. WHY IS HE STILL GETTING PASSES? BECAUSE HE WAS A GREAT GAME MANAGER WHEN THE PATS HAD THE BEST DEFENSE IN THE NFL (ACCORDING TO THESE SAME PATRIOTS FANS) IN 2001, 2003 AND 2004 (NOT TO MENTION SPYGATE)? HE GETS PASSES FOR BEING A GAME MANAGER 10+ YEARS AGO? WHY? WHY? PLEASE, SOMEONE ANSWER THIS. WHY IS TOM BRADY STILL GETTING PASSES FOR FAILING IN THE POSTSEASON 10 YEARS IN A ROW ... IN GAMES HE HAS BEEN FAVORED IN ALMOST EVERY SINGLE TIME? I NEED AN ANSWER. I DON'T WANT THE ANSWER TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH PEYTON MANNING. GIVE ME AN ANSWER.
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12-19-2014, 01:59 PM	#5
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	...didn't think so
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12-19-2014, 02:31 PM	#6
Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $2687229	I dunno, since winning their 3rd SB... The Patriots are 11-9 in the playoffs. 0-2 in SuperBowls played 2-3 in AFC Championship games So, since winning 3, they've played for the right to go again 5 times - getting there two more times. That's fairly impressive. __________________
Posts: 30,513

12-19-2014, 02:53 PM	#13
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	And when was the last time Manning lost to Brady in the playoffs? Is it possible that Tom Brady fits the billing of playoff choker more than Peyton Manning since Tom could only win the big one when all he was asked to do was manage games?
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12-19-2014, 03:17 PM	#14
Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $2687229	Don't know and don't care quite honestly... I'm done looking at NE playoff stats. __________________
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12-19-2014, 03:21 PM	#15
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2555047	Adam Vinatieri got robbed of SB MVP a bunch of times.
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