Cutler to Redskins in three-way deal? Cassel to Denver?

[ziggysocki]

Cutler to Redskins in three-way deal? Cassel to Denver?

Per yahoo sports:

Cutler to Redskins in three-way deal? Cassel to Denver?

The Philadelphia Inquirer reported the Washington Redskins are trying to land unhappy quarterback Jay Cutler from the Denver Broncos. According to the report, the rumored deal would also include the Kansas City Chiefs.

According to the report, Cutler would end up in Washington, Matt Cassel in Denver and Jason Campbell in Kansas City.

According to The Inquirer, the 'Skins are denying they have any intention of dumping Campbell, which shows they were paying attention when the Broncos got themselves into this mess to begin with. New coach Josh McDaniels, formerly QB coach and offensive coordinator for the Patriots, actively tried to trade Cutler for Cassel last month, didn't succeed, then lied about it.

Source: Philly.com

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/p...urn=nfl,149110

[Mile High Mania]

Question... how vocal has Cassel been lately about being a Chief? I guess anything could happen, but I just kinda doubt KC trades him.

And, per my comment in the other thread... I've tapped on the debate about what happens. I'm just ready to move on and accept whatever happens, whether I like it or not.

[Hammock Parties]

If the Chiefs are trying to trade Cassel...wouldn't that indicate interest in Sanchez or Stafford? CLING TO IT HAMAS!

[Mr. Krab]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Question... how vocal has Cassel been lately about being a Chief? I guess anything could happen, but I just kinda doubt KC trades him.

And, per my comment in the other thread... I've tapped on the debate about what happens. I'm just ready to move on and accept whatever happens, whether I like it or not.

As far as i know, He had a single press conference by phone when he was first traded and has not been talked to again.

Matt "The Ghost" Cassel

There has also been no talk of a long term deal that i have heard.

[Mile High Mania]

Weird... I guess that makes a potential trade possible, but who knows.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's

As far as i know, He had a single press conference by phone when he was first traded and has not been talked to again.

Matt "The Ghost" Cassel

There has also been no talk of a long term deal that i have heard.

Cassel was at Arrowhead and yet did not appear for the press conference.

Very mysterious indeed.

[Kyle DeLexus]

Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's

As far as i know, He had a single press conference by phone when he was first traded and has not been talked to again.

Matt "The Ghost" Cassel

There has also been no talk of a long term deal that i have heard.

He said in the conference that his agent and Pioli were going to work on it, but I haven't heard anything since. Of course you don't hear much from the new FO, so he could have a 6 year 80 mill contract and no one knows.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's

I know,I know but the NFL is all about signing bonus and guaranteed money. Since Cassel's contract money is not guaranteed, Pioli could easily change his mind if he sees a better option. That's what all our speculation is about, the possibility that they Chiefs could make a trade.

Until the Chiefs sign Cassel to a long term contract, they are not fully committed financially to Cassel as a long-term answer at the QB position.

But you're making speculation upon speculation. Could they trade him? Sure. However, they've committed financially already. It's two separate issues that you're trying to combine into one. Cassel is guaranteed $14.6 million. That's franchise QB money.

[Mr. Krab]

Originally Posted by MWagg72

He said in the conference that his agent and Pioli were going to work on it, but I haven't heard anything since. Of course you don't hear much from the new FO, so he could have a 6 year 80 mill contract and no one knows.

true

[orange]

Originally Posted by Claythan

Cassel was at Arrowhead and yet did not appear for the press conference.

Very mysterious indeed.

Is that the one where they caught him running out the back door or something?

[Kyle DeLexus]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

But you're making speculation upon speculation. Could they trade him? Sure. However, they've committed financially already. It's two separate issues that you're trying to combine into one. Cassel is guaranteed $14.6 million. That's franchise QB money.

No he's not guaranteed a penny. He has to play to earn it. They could release him today and they are out a pick but no cash at all. That is the point he is trying to make they have not committed to him long-term.

[Mr. Krab]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

But you're making speculation upon speculation. Could they trade him? Sure. However, they've committed financially already. It's two separate issues that you're trying to combine into one. Cassel is guaranteed $14.6 million. That's franchise QB money.

If Cassel plays for the Chiefs he is guaranteed 14.6 million.

But since there is no guarantee whatsoever that Cassel will play for the Chiefs next year then it's a moot issue. You are just arguing semantics and it's pointless to continue this discussion with you.

[Mr. Krab]

Originally Posted by orange

Is that the one where they caught him running out the back door or something?

No, one of the reporters ask Cassel a question and he mistakenly referred to "this building" which led to reporters to immediately ask if he was in Arrowhead. He said he was and that kind of blew the secret that Cassel was doing a presser by phone INSIDE Arrowhead instead of just walking down to the conference room.

It was weird.

[rad]

Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's

No, one of the reporters ask Cassel a question and he mistakenly referred to "this building" which led to reporters to immediately ask if he was in Arrowhead. He said he was and that kind of blew the secret that Cassel was doing a presser by phone INSIDE Arrowhead instead of just walking down to the conference room.

It was weird.

He must have been being fitted with his Bionic Wobble Launcher v2.0

[orange]

Originally Posted by MWagg72

No he's not guaranteed a penny. He has to play to earn it. They could release him today and they are out a pick but no cash at all. That is the point he is trying to make they have not committed to him long-term.

Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's

If Cassel plays for the Chiefs he is guaranteed 14.6 million.

But since there is no guarantee whatsoever that Cassel will play for the Chiefs next year then it's a moot issue. You are just arguing semantics and it's pointless to continue this discussion with you.

No, you're both wrong. The money is guaranteed - whether he plays or not. The only way the Chiefs get off the hook is to trade his contract to some other sucker. They can't waive him or bench him to avoid paying. He only has to show up for the required duties (in shape).


(c) If a player subject to a Franchise Player designation accepts the Required Tender, the resulting Player Contract shall be fully guaranteed if the player’s contract is terminated because of lack of comparative skill; as a result of an injury sustained in the performance of his services under his Player Contract; and/or due to a Club’s determination to create Room for Salary Cap purposes. For purposes of this Subsection only, any contract termination due to the failure of the player to establish or maintain his excellent physical condition will be subject to review of a neutral physician appointed by the parties under Article X (Injury Grievance), whose physical findings will be conclusive in any arbitration proceeding relating to the physical condition of the player at the time of the exam, providing such exam takes place within twenty (20) days of the contract termination.

http://www.nflplayers.com/user/templ...pid=540&type=c

That's the actual Collective Bargaining Agreement.

[Mr. Krab]

Originally Posted by orange

No, you're both wrong. The money is guaranteed - whether he plays or not. The only way the Chiefs get off the hook is to trade his contract to some other sucker. They can't waive him or bench him to avoid paying. He only has to show up for the required duties (in shape).


(c) If a player subject to a Franchise Player designation accepts the Required Tender, the resulting Player Contract shall be fully guaranteed if the player’s contract is terminated because of lack of comparative skill; as a result of an injury sustained in the performance of his services under his Player Contract; and/or due to a Club’s determination to create Room for Salary Cap purposes. For purposes of this Subsection only, any contract termination due to the failure of the player to establish or maintain his excellent physical condition will be subject to review of a neutral physician appointed by the parties under Article X (Injury Grievance), whose physical findings will be conclusive in any arbitration proceeding relating to the physical condition of the player at the time of the exam, providing such exam takes place within twenty (20) days of the contract termination.

http://www.nflplayers.com/user/templ...pid=540&type=c

That's the actual Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Interesting, i didn't know any contract was guaranteed until after the first game of the season. Thanks.

Still doesn't apply to what i was talking about though, the Chiefs being able to trade Cassel with no penalty to them.