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Gonzalez Fever: Coming to an NFL Franchise Near You...
No playoffs, Atlanta? We can take Tony Gonzalez off your hands
Barring a calamity, the Seattle Seahawks are on their way to the playoffs, and figure to make waves when they get there. Those lofty expectations put on them before the season – homefield advantage for two unscheduled games in January, a Super Bowl berth in February – remain realistic. In other words, the Seahawks are not obvious candidates to participate in a blockbuster trade. But what if there’s a chance to acquire an all-time great player capable of turning a powerhouse team into something approaching unbeatable? Are Pete Carroll and John Schneider content with the status quo, or do they stand up on the tips of their toes and reach for the, uh, star? Atlanta tight end Tony Gonzalez, a future first-ballot Hall of Famer whose final (we think) NFL season has been as productive as any of the 16 that preceded it, is not on the market. Not officially, anyway. Falcons coach Mike Smith on Wednesday said talk of dangling Gonzalez as trade bait was “preposterous.” Preposterous? Here’s what’s preposterous: any notion of the Falcons regrouping as contenders after their surprisingly sluggish start. They are 1-4. Of the last 118 teams to begin 1-4, six have qualified for the playoffs. Atlanta still has to face the Seahawks and Saints at home and the Packers and 49ers on the road, and it has to face them without Pro Bowl receiver Julio Jones, sidelined for the season with a broken foot. Trading the popular Gonzalez would be seen as a white-flag move sure to peeve the Falcons’ already frustrated season-ticket base. Frustration is not a synonym for stupidity. Nine months after the Georgia Dome was home for the NFC Championship Game, Atlanta fans know the only way to salvage 2013 is to begin work on 2014. Trading Gonzalez, who put off retirement plans last season to return for a long goodbye presumably capped by his first world championship, would give the Falcons a head start on next season. At issue is the exchange rate. What’s a 37-year-old legend worth after he has made it clear (we think) his retirement is imminent? In the case of Jerry Rice, who had just turned 42 when the Seahawks acquired him from the Raiders midway through the 2004 season, the legend was worth a conditional seventh-round draft choice. This just in: Tony Gonzalez is not Jerry Rice. Rice had nothing much to contribute and absolutely nothing left to prove when the Seahawks allowed him to wear the retired No. 80 jersey associated with Steve Largent. Rice wasn’t the bust Terrell Owens turned out to be during an awkward 2012 preseason audition in Seattle, but the only similarity between the 49ers’ version of vintage Rice and the Seahawks’ version of refried Rice was that No. 80. Gonzalez, who has caught 33 passes for 339 yards and three touchdowns this season, still is a reliable receiver demanding a defense’s attention on every snap. The versatile athlete, who once scrapped for rebounds on the University of California basketball team, hasn’t lost the soft-handed ability to snare a ball up for grabs. Which brings us to the Seahawks and an offense whose quarterback, Russell Wilson, is consistently forced to scramble behind a patchwork offensive line more adept at clearing room on off-tackle bursts than protecting on pass plays. When Wilson is running for his life, nothing is more inviting than a 6-foot-5 target with soft hands. It’s a role fit for Seahawks veteran Zach Miller, who finally emerged as a go-to target during last season’s playoff run. Miller’s only problem is durability, the one-thing-or-another consequences of playing a hard-knocks position in a brutal sport. A hamstring injury kept him out of action at Indianapolis, and he’s a game-day decision this week. Aside from Miller’s uncertain availability for any given Sunday, there is this to consider: On the healthiest day of his life, Miller will never be confused with Tony Gonzalez. Gonzalez in a nutshell: The Seahawks were a few seconds away from escaping Atlanta last season with a playoff comeback victory for the ages. The Seahawks didn’t go soft in a prevent defense. They pressured quarterback Matt Ryan with five pass rushers. Ryan had little time, and yet he found Gonzalez down the middle for the 19-yard completion that set up the winning field goal, from 49 yards. Some disconsolate Seahawks’ fans wept at the conclusion. So did Gonzalez, who had never experienced a playoff victory. He came back for a 17th season with the idea of competing in a Super Bowl. That won’t happen. Gonzalez isn’t pushing for a trade, the Falcons aren’t discussing a trade, but it’s hard to believe the Oct. 29 trade deadline will expire without several teams in serious pursuit of him. Yes, he’s a rental, a 37-year-old on the cusp (we think) of retirement. But if the Seahawks are aggressive, they can their give their scrambling quarterback an option who embodies the essence of a target in a pinch. Can Gonzalez be obtained for a seventh-round draft choice? No way. A fourth-round draft choice? We’re getting warm, but not warm enough. A first-round draft choice? It’s an offer the Falcons won’t refuse, and an offer Seahawks fans might find outrageous. Until it’s third-and-7, at midfield, and Wilson is scrambling to complete the pass that sets up the Seahawks for a winning kick in the Super Bowl. Carroll and Schneider don’t need my advice, but what the heck, I’ll offer some anyway: Trade a first-round draft choice for Tony Gonzalez. Go for it, and go for it all. http://www.thenewstribune.com/2013/1...#storylink=cpy |
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FWIW, Jeff Chadia was on 810 this morning and cited his source close to the negotiations that the Chiefs and Falcons are talking about a possible trade. Chadia's source also told him about Reid and Smith coming to KC. They are still talking about compensation.
TG would help keep the safeties and LB's at home and would open up Bowe and Avery. TG's last year in KC he had over 1,000 yds receiving and Bowe had over 1,000 yds receiving. That was the last year that KC had 2 1,000 yd receivers. Tyler Thigpen was the QB that year. Do I think that getting TG back would a good thing? Hell to the yeah.
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Wilt on the withered vine of Atlanta you selfish ****...
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Atlanta will be lucky to get to 8 - 8, Lucky I tell ya.
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They could only really give up a 5th pick, or maybe a five this year and a four the year after. We won't have a #2 because we'll owe that to SF for Alex Smith. And Junior Hemmingway will have to switch his jersey number to something other than 88.
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I thought merch rules prevent a player from switching numbers midway through a season
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They could "cut" Hemmingway, give the number to TG, and resign Hemmingway. Not that difficult.
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I too, would rather hold on to my spite, instead of acquiring a player that could help my team win a super bowl.
At least that way, they could get together and have a super bowl party instead of being together, and playing. lol. ![]()
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Will get done sooner than later. I'm guessing next week. Sooner he's here the quicker he can get comfortable with the system and team
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Coming back to a team you said you would retire with, who happens to be undefeated.
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Maybe checking out the new guy??
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...te-more-often/ The Falcons are rapidly running out of wide receivers. But they’re thinking about using a developing tight end talent alongside a future Hall-of-Famer to give themselves some options. With Julio Jones out for the year and Roddy White seemingly coming up with something on a weekly basis, the Falcons are struggling for pass-catchers as they self-scout over their bye week. One option seems to be using rookie tight end Levine Toilolo in tandem with Tony Gonzalez. The 6-foot-8 fourth-round pick has impressed coaches so far, so they’re working on ways to get him the ball. “I think he’s coming along like we anticipated,” coach Mike Smith said of Toilolo, via Vaughn McClure of ESPN.com. “I think he’s going to be a very good threat, especially in the red zone. “But, yes, [more two-tight-end sets] would be an option for us as well.” Gonzalez has been as productive as you’d expect, while Toilolo is still learning, having put a dropped touchdown against the Patriots behind him with a pair of scores. Of course, if the Falcons are going to go two-tight end, it would also help if running back Steven Jackson was well and giving them some balance in the run game. But at a time when they’re scrambling for answers, it might be the kind of thing to give them a spark.
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Gonzo is a Chief. Just a matter of time. This will be a storybook ending. Football Gods are shining their light of greatness on this team.
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Can't believe the compensation would be that high - Has TBG weighed in on this lately?
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