"Alex Smith makes your defense better"

[temper11]

Article from Arrowhead Pride. Talks of the apparent positive effects of Smith's game on the defense.

This won't change any minds... Smith-baters have been saying this for a while now, but at least someone put it on paper and put some numbers to it for discussion.

Have at it everyone...

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015/6...defense-better

[O.city]

Smith shouldn't have snapped a ball in the 2nd half with more than 2 seconds on the play clock, if it's a live time play.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I don't get the 7 minutes of time wasted. I just looked at this and that's not right.

Like I said, I did the math and posted in a thread here a couple of months ago.

I checked and rechecked.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Knile Davis was getting stonewalled the second half. Cyrus Gray was embarrassingly bad. We would had a ton of 3 and outs. Not good when the other team is scoring touchdowns in record time.

If anything, I was furious that Andy Reid went in a shell in the second half, not the other way around. He went away from everything that was working.

Originally Posted by notorious

DON'T ****ING RELIVE THAT SHIT.


PLEASE!

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs

Yes, this is dogshit.

The only reason we scored a TD at all in the second half was the defense setting up a short field.



You give Luck a chance to get back in the game and he will. Alex turned back into a pumpkin and proved he's not the guy that day.

Oh, well I take everything back... he actually led us to 13, not 10 second half points.

Weeell lahdi frickin dah, if you give Joe ****ing Montana the ball at home against a defense that had mostly been defanged, HE just might win the day as well

[Hammock Parties]

You're giving credit to Alex for things the defense did, though.

The defense gifted us with 10 of those points.

This is why debating with you homers is frustrating. You want to assign far too much credit to the QB for team success.

[ViperVisor]

Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs

You're giving credit to Alex for things the defense did, though.

The defense gifted us with 10 of those points.

Defense escaped from a blown block and threw the TD.

[ThaVirus]

I've still yet to see solid proof that the back "pulled up" on the missed wheel route..

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by ViperVisor

Defense escaped from a blown block and threw the TD.

Dude, the defense set up a three-play drive for a TD.

I mean nice play by Alex and all, but, come on.

Come the **** on.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by milkman

If you don't remember anything about clock management then you were too stupid to notice.

When we traded for Smith, one of the things that his followers constantly poited out was his game smarts.

Not burning clock is not smart, and had he done so, there would not have been enough time for the Colts to score enough points tot come all the way back.

So, no, it's not petty.

That was a huge factor in allowing that comeback.

Ok, I agree that he doesn't have in-game smarts. I've ragged on him a lot about that. It's still petty because you have to put those mistakes in context with the successes. And the blame here should be shared with Reid who could have easily put a stop to that shit. Smith still played a plus game and a plus second half. On the list of players to blame for the loss, he is probably one of the bottom of the list, which is rare to say for a QB.

I completely get what you're saying. If I was just talking to you, I'd agree. But there are people using things like that as an excuse to dig on Smith.

[O.city]

Can we trade Claynus for OTWP and get him to leave?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by O.city

Can we trade Claynus for OTWP and get him to leave?

OTWP taught me everything I know.

Before I sat next to him at a Chiefs game I was a dirty, dirty Cassel lover.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs

You want to assign far too much credit to the QB for team success.

And you and your ilk want to assign too much credit for the teams losses.

FUUU*K, this is why the guy is so divisive... just trying to be fair about him equals some kind of traitor status with some of you.

Dudes the worst ever or you're an idiot homer, no in-betweens allowed... well **** you all... things arent usually that simple and I'm not going to kiss your ass for popularity sake.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

And you and your ilk want to assign too much credit for the teams losses.

Sorry, but that's the way it works when you're the QB.

You can't sit here and say Alex "balled out that game." He balled out for a half, period. After that it was fraidy-cat nonsense.

[Discuss Thrower]

"All he does is win!" is the narrative from idiots like Sandy Cheeks et al...


... until it's X, Y or Z's fault. Then it's yet another instance of when the team around Smith let him down.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs

Sorry, but that's the way it works when you're the QB.

You can't sit here and say Alex "balled out that game." He balled out for a half, period. After that it was fraidy-cat nonsense.

He balled out for a half. He played solid enough in the 2nd half especially given what he had.

The idea that he was playing fraidy-cat is complete nonsense.

Most games, I would agree that the QB is accountable. But I haven't seen a more clear-cut example of a QB's teammates literally playing the worst football of their career all in one game.