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Old 11-17-2006, 11:28 PM  
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Post your PS3 and Nintendo Wii reviews here.

So....who has a PS3?? Whats it like?? I plan on perhaps getting a Wii, but i want to see what the people say first.........Whats the scoop??

Worth $600 ???
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Old 11-21-2006, 10:23 AM   #151
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Yeah.... and I like this comment on the above page....



And this one....



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Sorry, but Resistance DOES use more storage capacity than a HD-DVD can hold. It's a fact, no matter how much you spin.
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Old 11-21-2006, 10:35 AM   #152
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Sorry, but Resistance DOES use more storage capacity than a HD-DVD can hold. It's a fact, no matter how much you spin.
You keep telling yourself that..........

Fact is no PC game out right now is even half that size.... and most PC games have just as good of graphics if not better than PS3.

Sony is bloating their games to provide Blueray hype.... and you're eating it up like Pootie on Huard. There is no reason for current games to use that much storage... and if they did, the cost goes up considerably with each layer needed. Meaning if they start producing games over 25GBs, the price of making a Blueray disk with more than 1 layer is going to go up, while the yield will go down. It's not economical for them at all.
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Old 11-21-2006, 10:42 AM   #153
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so, does anybody here actually HAVE a PS3 or a Wii? or is just a buncha people arguing about how fast a HDDVD spins over a blue ray disc
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Old 11-21-2006, 10:43 AM   #154
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There is only one game i ever seen break the 20 gig mark, and thats a Online RPG.
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Old 11-21-2006, 10:56 AM   #155
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so, does anybody here actually HAVE a PS3 or a Wii? or is just a buncha people arguing about how fast a HDDVD spins over a blue ray disc
I have a Wii and so far I like it. I am big PC game fan so it is definitely a change to play a console.
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Old 11-21-2006, 11:05 AM   #156
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I honestly don't know or care which is better, but if there is one thing we should all realize, storage capacity will always be needed. If someone would have told me in 1995 that I would have a 120 GB hard drive, and I would need to buy an external 250 gb hard drive, I would not be able to dream what I would have filled it with. I think it's really smart to buffer storage capacity as much as possible, so that you have room to grow and take advantage of the abilities of the machine (if they are as advertised)
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Old 11-21-2006, 04:18 PM   #157
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Developers ARE spending more time on developing games and the price went up $10 each for the next generation of games because of this(and greed). Also, I provided a link that clearly shows games are already using MORE capacity than what a DVD9 can hold. Here's the link, again...

http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/Resista...-ray-disc.html

Keep in mind that's just a launch title. The games will become more expansive as time goes on and developers figure out the hardware better.

The only true way to see a difference(if there is a difference) is by customer reviews as well as magazines, etc. Right now, it seems all that is talked about is Sony's marketing BS. In time, I think we'll really start getting a good idea of which is the better deal.

So far, I've seen games on both systems and I don't see Sony's being worth the extra couple hundred. Frankly, I don't see Sony's being better at all. And if they end up using all that additional storage capacity for more content (longer game story lines, more modes/features, etc, then they will have to raise the prices on their games even more. Otherwise, it would not be cost effective. How can you not see that?
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Old 11-21-2006, 04:24 PM   #158
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Not High-Definition movies, it doesn't. Try again.


So since you BOUGHT a DVD player before the PS2, why the **** are you complaining about the price of the console? You obviously don't mind paying for state-of-the-art technology and also want the most current technology in your homes. Blu-ray and HD-DVD are both a better standard.
You didn't say High Definition movies. You said MOVIES, period.

I'm NOT complaining about the price of the console.

I'm trying to interject some reality into the non-stop Sony HYPE.
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Old 11-21-2006, 04:28 PM   #159
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Developers ARE spending more time on developing games and the price went up $10 each for the next generation of games because of this(and greed). Also, I provided a link that clearly shows games are already using MORE capacity than what a DVD9 can hold. Here's the link, again...

http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/Resista...-ray-disc.html

Keep in mind that's just a launch title. The games will become more expansive as time goes on and developers figure out the hardware better.
The program manager for PS3 was fired by Sony last summer for not keeping his mouth shut.

One of the things he said that got him fired is that NONE of the titles being worked on were "next generation". He said that it would be at least a year before the graphics capabilities were fully realized and that the storage capacity would probably never be tapped.
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Old 11-21-2006, 04:30 PM   #160
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The program manager for PS3 was fired by Sony last summer for not keeping his mouth shut.

One of the things he said that got him fired is that NONE of the titles being worked on were "next generation". He said that it would be at least a year before the graphics capabilities were fully realized and that the storage capacity would probably never be tapped.
Just like computer graphics cards, I always thought that it was a given that the full potential wouldn't be shown till later down the road. I've heard that everytime a new console or graphics card came out.
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Old 11-21-2006, 04:45 PM   #161
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BTW, I played a PS3 at Walmart last night. It was some off road game. The visuals were stunning, as expected. Load time seemed a little lengthy, though. Cool game, very fun. Didn't seem any better than Xbox 360, though. Of course, my personal experience is based on only one game I've played on the 360, Call Of Duty, and the one game I played on the PS3.
I played that game on a 1080P LCD-TV(Sony) last week. Believe me, it makes a world of difference in the graphics over the 720p LCD's they are using on the displays at Wal-Mart...
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Old 11-21-2006, 04:48 PM   #162
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Has anybody mentioned that the 360 is going to have HD-DVD by Christmas? Well according to this anyways: http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/05...0_hddvd_drive/


I, personally, don't feel like bluray or HD-DVD are the future anyways. I do not think the future is going to be a physical medium, but rather in the vein of flash storage devices, downloadable content like iTunes has, the way cable movies on demand work, etc. etc. I can see us getting movies and TV shows piped into our houses like a podcast rather than having to go buy some clunky new disc that is just going to get scratched. I bet the media companies would rather do that too, than give us discs we are going to copy and give to our friends.

What we are gravitating toward, in my opinion, is a home entertainment system technology that blends the PC, the gaming console, the media manager, handling of TV programming, the purchasing of entertainment content, and the home theater functions. That's the future, not some shinier new disc widget that holds more stuff and will be available much cheaper in a year or two anyways.
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Old 11-21-2006, 04:59 PM   #163
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Are you not understanding what we are trying to say???


1.Blu-Ray or HD-DVD will not see its true potential now or during these consoles...

2.No game is going to fill up a 50 or 75 gig disc for information. So the extra storage for that is useless.. Movies outside of really big box sets on single discs are also a moot point as they will not fill the entire disc..

Touting a console because of its storage technology that will not be fully reached during this console period is laughable..
Actually, it is not laughable. We need to start looking at this from a different perspective. Think Marketing versus Information Systems. The expanded capacity gives the software providers, i.e. Fox, Warner Bros, Disney, Sony, EA, RockStar, etc the ability to create unique packages of software. Possibly a game and a movie on one disc. How about adding featurettes to the game title? How cool would that be to have 3 animated shorts with the third iteration of Halo? Movies with 5 alternate endings, the possibilites are limitless...all in HD.

Sony is not alone in promoting the Blu-ray format. It will be an industry standard. I would say that it is safe to assume that blu-ray technology will become more mainstream in 2007 and the average retail price will be well below $500. Blu-ray, and HD-DVD for that matter, will allow consumers to have another medium, other than cable, etc. to use the capabilities of the new TV's that they are buying today and in the future. Between now and 2009 we are about to witness the biggest consumer electronics spend in history, and it will be on HDTV's. The content to drive these TV's will become just as important as the sets themselves.

http://www.blu-ray.com/
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Old 11-21-2006, 05:06 PM   #164
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I don't buy that one bit. DVD's didn't take off until the PS2 launched, then voila a new medium, that revolutionized the way the masses watch movies. Blu-Ray and HD-DVD, BOTH are better standards than the typical DVD, it just makes sense that's the next, natural progression for storage medium.

They may come out with a newer medium, but we all know the masses are slow to adopt, that's why Sony brings the new technology to the masses. It's a beneficial procedure that gives them the upper-hand. Had Microsoft INCLUDED the HD-DVD in their console, I would have stated the race would be much closer, but as it is now, all owners of the PS3 will have the new technology-the same can't be said for the 360 owners.
I don't know if I buy that. DVD really took off when a little marketing company from California called APEX destroyed the marketplace in 2002 by dropping DVD players down below $100. Granted, these units were not licensed by the DVD consortium. The head of the company decided to neglect the responsibility to pay the tech royalties and he is now locked up somewhere in SE Asia for fraud...
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Old 11-21-2006, 05:10 PM   #165
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Nobody said it wasn't a better storage medium. Hell it's probably a better technology all-around.

But it's NOT PRACTICAL.

Hell, I'm in networking. For 15 years, all I heard was about how great ATM is. ATM is still a superior technology. And you know what?

It's expensive, it's complex, and nobody ****ing uses it.
I find the whole IT Professional approach to home entertainment to be very interesting, sometimes myopic, but interesting nonetheless...
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