Football The Pioli Watch Thread - Page 11

cardken · 02:26 PM

I'm hijacking the thread starter to use for an "updates" area. Sorry cardken. Here are a few recent updates:

Last updated 1/13/09 2:30pm CDT (final update)

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Originally Posted by Basileus777

New England Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli has agreed to become head of football operations for the Kansas City Chiefs, two NFL sources confirmed to ESPN's Michael Smith.
The vice president for player personnel at New England, Pioli, 43, is close to Patriots coach Bill Belichick and has been with the Patriots for nine years. Pioli would find a warm welcome in Kansas City. At the last Chiefs' home game, shortly after the embattled Carl Peterson resigned after 20 years as president, general manager and CEO, several signs were spotted in the crowd proclaiming, "We want Pioli." Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3830515

FloridaMan88 · 01-01-2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by blueballs

I have a bit of problem with a high paid staff
DV's was the highest paid by far in their day
they were refered to as arrogant by the zebras -effected calls

So you'd rather get front office people on the cheap? Arizona and Cincinnati tried that strategy until a few years ago... didn't work out too well for them.

blueballs · 01-01-2009, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

So you'd rather get front office people on the cheap? Arizona and Cincinnati tried that strategy until a few years ago... didn't work out too well for them.

does your bulb
have three settings
it's not even on right now

**doomy3** · 01-01-2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

The KC Star disagrees with your claim:

The Chiefs’ search for a new general manager still appears centered on Pioli, the New England Patriots’ vice president of player personnel.

http://www.kansascity.com/666/story/960432.html

They're throwing darts just like everyone else. Just a week ago, they reported that they were going after Marty and even offered him a position. Now they post an article saying the exact opposite. Yeah, seems completely credible.

Clark could very well be putting misinformation out there. His guy could still be in the playoffs, or at the least, he wants to talk to more than one person before making this decision instead of hastily hiring the newest hot name like Cleveland is apparently.

Maybe Pioli is his guy, who knows. But to act like you know anything about it is laughable as none of us do.

aturnis · 01-01-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

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Your and idiot.

I know right...

FloridaMan88 · 01-01-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

Maybe Pioli is his guy, who knows. But to act like you know anything about it is laughable as none of us do.

My source that Pioli is the Chiefs primary target is the KC Star... where is your source that Pioli isn't the Chiefs #1 target?

**doomy3** · 01-01-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

My source that Pioli is the Chiefs primary target is the KC Star... where is your source that Pioli isn't the Chiefs #1 target?

Your source said Marty was the #1 target a week ago!!

My source is Clark Hunt I guess. He clearly stated he wanted to talk to several people and take his time on the decision. Doesn't sound like he knows who his #1 target is, does it?

dorseybowe · 01-01-2009, 02:45 PM

I wouldn't be willing to give him total control like he wants. If it comes down to that, it's too bad, and Clark should be adamant. We don't need King Scott I.

**cdcox** · 01-01-2009, 02:55 PM

I'm not high on Ferentz as a head coach.

1. College guys are seldom successful in the pros.

2. A defensive guy isn't going to be best for developing a young franchise QB. If we got a great QB coach and offensive coordinator, I might reconsider.

3. Frenentz seems awfully happy at Iowa.

If Pioli wants Ferentz, I'm not as high on him.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-01-2009, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

Your source said Marty was the #1 target a week ago!!

My source is Clark Hunt I guess. He clearly stated he wanted to talk to several people and take his time on the decision. Doesn't sound like he knows who his #1 target is, does it?

If Clark is smart, he's doesn't have a #1 target, he has several #1 targets.

Go into these interviews with an open mind, not already deciding that if Pioli doesn't come off as an idiot, he gets the job.

Personally, everything he's done to this point speaks to my opinion that he's planning on talking to guys that are working right now, and he's not going to hire ANYONE until he's talked to everyone on his list.

**doomy3** · 01-01-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

If Clark is smart, he's doesn't have a #1 target, he has several #1 targets.

Go into these interviews with an open mind, not already deciding that if Pioli doesn't come off as an idiot, he gets the job.

Personally, everything he's done to this point speaks to my opinion that he's planning on talking to guys that are working right now, and he's not going to hire ANYONE until he's talked to everyone on his list.

I completely agree. I think it would be a huge mistake to just go grab the first hot name that comes to mind.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-01-2009, 02:59 PM

Clint.

I like it.

Clark sounds like a wuss.

aturnis · 01-01-2009, 03:04 PM

"Sources close to the situation have informed The OBR that Cleveland Browns owner Randy Lerner and New England Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli are currently engaged in extensive talks -- and have been since yesterday evening -- which could result in an agreement as early as this evening or tonight. "It's not a done deal, but it's heading in that direction. It could get finished in short order," a source said, adding the qualifier that "until the pen is put to paper, anything could happen."

At the latest, sources said, an agreement in principle between the two sides -- or a mutual parting of ways, it should be added -- could be reached by the end of the day tomorrow. A source added that the earliest the Browns would hold a press conference to announce a Pioli hiring would be on Friday, unless the news breaks and the ensuing media circus forces the organization to hold the presser a day earlier.

There is no word yet on what title Pioli would hold should he agree to a position with the Browns, although it could range anywhere from all-powerful general manager all the way up to president of football operations. Or both.

Another issue of note involving Pioli is the Browns' interviewing of Eric Mangini for their vacant coaching position. Earlier in the week, sources told The OBR that the Spygate brouhaha created a divide between Mangini and Pioli, and that their rumored pairing in Cleveland would likely not happen due to the animosity. However, sources have since indicated that Spygate and any bitterness that resulted from it would not be an issue between the two.

That doesn't mean Mangini will become the next head coach, but Spygate apparently would not preclude him from becoming Rome Crennel's replacement either."

Delano · 01-01-2009, 03:05 PM

Lerner sure has a boner for ex-Pats.

Brock · 01-01-2009, 03:06 PM

Why would they want to hire Mangini?

triple · 01-01-2009, 03:06 PM

Bring on Polian

01-01-2009, 02:45 PM	#157
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01-01-2009, 03:04 PM	#162
aturnis MVP Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Iowa Casino cash: $9975811	From Brownsboard.com: Pioli almost landed. "Sources close to the situation have informed The OBR that Cleveland Browns owner Randy Lerner and New England Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli are currently engaged in extensive talks -- and have been since yesterday evening -- which could result in an agreement as early as this evening or tonight. "It's not a done deal, but it's heading in that direction. It could get finished in short order," a source said, adding the qualifier that "until the pen is put to paper, anything could happen." At the latest, sources said, an agreement in principle between the two sides -- or a mutual parting of ways, it should be added -- could be reached by the end of the day tomorrow. A source added that the earliest the Browns would hold a press conference to announce a Pioli hiring would be on Friday, unless the news breaks and the ensuing media circus forces the organization to hold the presser a day earlier. There is no word yet on what title Pioli would hold should he agree to a position with the Browns, although it could range anywhere from all-powerful general manager all the way up to president of football operations. Or both. Another issue of note involving Pioli is the Browns' interviewing of Eric Mangini for their vacant coaching position. Earlier in the week, sources told The OBR that the Spygate brouhaha created a divide between Mangini and Pioli, and that their rumored pairing in Cleveland would likely not happen due to the animosity. However, sources have since indicated that Spygate and any bitterness that resulted from it would not be an issue between the two. That doesn't mean Mangini will become the next head coach, but Spygate apparently would not preclude him from becoming Rome Crennel's replacement either."
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