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Old 04-25-2012, 06:37 AM  
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http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bucs/

They say top 5 is shaping up to this:

1) Luck
2) RG3
3)Claiborne
4) Richardson
5)Kuechly

Also, Mark Barron is getting a ton of play. The Chargers and Cowboys are both interested in trading up to get him. The Bills are supposed to be real interested in taking him at 10.

Kalil just might fall to the Chiefs pick! I think that would be a no brainer in my mind.
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Old 04-25-2012, 04:25 PM   #151
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Old 04-25-2012, 04:26 PM   #152
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**** it, i'll call him wurthers...

anyways, it looks like we'll have an offer if barron is there
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Old 04-25-2012, 04:28 PM   #153
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So if we trade back with Dallas, what would we realistically get? An extra 3rd? Maybe a late round pick too?
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Old 04-25-2012, 04:29 PM   #154
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**** it, i'll call him wurthers...

anyways, it looks like we'll have an offer if barron is there
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Old 04-25-2012, 04:29 PM   #155
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I just hope for once we are in some kind of position of power to get offers.

I hope to hell that Barron and Tannehill are both there when we pick and a couple of teams start bidding.
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Old 04-25-2012, 04:31 PM   #156
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So if we trade back with Dallas, what would we realistically get? An extra 3rd? Maybe a late round pick too?
depends how horny they are...but probably a 3rd, i'd think
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Old 04-25-2012, 04:35 PM   #157
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As far as rumors, it is going to be fun for the next 24 hours. Pioli, Romeo, Clark, Dallas (Pioli's wife) and the Big Tuna (Pioli's father-in-law) know we are taking Brockers. He is the elite 5 tech guy he wants to replace TJax, at a decent salary hit.

So, our last minute strategy is to whisper in Mayock's ear that we are taking Barron. That will cause Dallas to trade up to #10 or our spot to take him. We let people think we are interested in Keuchly. This will force Seattle to trade up to get him, maybe with us. We whisper we want a LT and Arizona will trade up to get in front of us, or trade with us.

That is great for Pioli because Brockers is made more safe with each of these guys trading up. Brockers is safe until the 15th pick. He has to hope Philly will jump up in a trade for Cox, because it won't trade up for Brockers most likely. If Philly jumps up to take someone other than Brockers, then he might be safe until the early 20s, meaning we can fall back to then.
Brockers is replacing TJax or Dorsey, who can't rush the QB, with another guy from the same school that can't rush the QB. Its the move that helps us out the least of all the picks we could have. At least with the other moves you could say we're getting an upgrade.
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Old 04-25-2012, 04:39 PM   #158
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I'd trade down to #14 for an extra 3rd in a heartbeat.

If Pioli really wanted Keuchly or Barron, they would not be available at #14

If you wanted DeCastro or Brockers (or Tannehill) they would likely be available at #14.
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I'd trade down to #14 for an extra 3rd in a heartbeat.

If Pioli really wanted Keuchly or Barron, they would not be available at #14

If you wanted DeCastro or Brockers (or Tannehill) they would likely be available at #14.
Tannehill is NOT getting past Miami.
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Old 04-25-2012, 04:43 PM   #160
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Brockers is replacing TJax or Dorsey, who can't rush the QB, with another guy from the same school that can't rush the QB. Its the move that helps us out the least of all the picks we could have. At least with the other moves you could say we're getting an upgrade.
I don't disagree. I'm not pushing Brockers at all; but, it has become apparent he is the pick if you look at all the factors. If you read the threads here describing why he will be an "elite" 5 Tech (size, arms, motor, etc.) and you factor in the restructuring of TJax's contract, Brockers was the only 1st rounder Pioli interviewed (other than Poe and Tannehill) and the premium that Pioli seems to put on DEs, the picture becomes clear.
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I think it is 50/50. Depends what WR is available for them. If they pass on him, he will fall like Brady Quinn to the lower part of the first round, when they could trade back into the first round to get him. If his own coach takes a pass (ala Weiss taking a pass on Clausen) who will touch him in the midround?
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Brockers is replacing TJax or Dorsey, who can't rush the QB, with another guy from the same school that can't rush the QB. Its the move that helps us out the least of all the picks we could have. At least with the other moves you could say we're getting an upgrade.
The job of a 5 technique in the two-gap is to control gaps and eat up blockers, not shoot through the gap.
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I'd trade down to #14 for an extra 3rd in a heartbeat.

If Pioli really wanted Keuchly or Barron, they would not be available at #14

If you wanted DeCastro or Brockers (or Tannehill) they would likely be available at #14.
agree re: availability of decastro/brockers

if we trade down, i won't really care who we take

i still don't care for a guard in the first, but DeCastro+Chapman(3rd) is fine by me
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The job of a 5 technique in the two-gap is to control gaps and eat up blockers, not shoot through the gap.
Exactly. We aren't going to ask that guy to rush the passer, whether it's Brockers, Tjax, Dorsey, or anyone else.
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