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Old 09-16-2012, 07:57 PM   #1
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Spiller made this team look foolish. That is talent and outside Jamaal, Bowe & Tamba, ain't no talent like that on this team.
Dude this team has a lot of talent. We just don't have a talented QB and the coaches obviously don't know how to utilize the rest of the talent.
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:02 PM   #2
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you cant say there is talent on this team and then say Pioli sucks. If Pioli sucks its because there is NO talent, and hes done a piss poor job of adding talent

you cant have it both ways, its either his fault this team lacks talent or it isnt

I say it is, his drafts are all a bunch of smoke and mirrors and are actually 4 terrible years of drafting if you break down. 2 good players a couple of role players and no impact players or playmakers and then the rest scrubs. Thats not talent
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:03 PM   #3
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you cant say there is talent on this team and then say Pioli sucks. If Pioli sucks its because there is NO talent, and hes done a piss poor job of adding talent

you cant have it both ways, its either his fault this team lacks talent or it isnt

I say it is, his drafts are all a bunch of smoke and mirrors and are actually 4 terrible years of drafting if you break down. 2 good players a couple of role players and no impact players or playmakers and then the rest scrubs. Thats not talent
You can have it both ways.

There is plenty of talent. We just have a head coach and QB who are seriously undermining the talent that we have.
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:05 PM   #4
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You can have it both ways.

There is plenty of talent. We just have a head coach and QB who are seriously undermining the talent that we have.
Mucho agreement.
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:08 PM   #5
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You can have it both ways.

There is plenty of talent. We just have a head coach and QB who are seriously undermining the talent that we have.
thats a tough call to make to claim this is some sort of rare 49ers-like situation.

you dont know that unless they would get the right coach in here, and that is like fitting a square peg in a round hole. Who is the perfect hire to make all this "talent" as you put it fit?

and the true test of if the wagons fall off this team is who stays or leaves for FA in the biggest offseason of Pioli's Chiefs career coming up. That alone will be telling of how much talent we have left
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:13 PM   #6
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thats a tough call to make to claim this is some sort of rare 49ers-like situation.

you dont know that unless they would get the right coach in here, and that is like fitting a square peg in a round hole. Who is the perfect hire to make all this "talent" as you put it fit?

and the true test of if the wagons fall off this team is who stays or leaves for FA in the biggest offseason of Pioli's Chiefs career coming up. That alone will be telling of how much talent we have left
It's not a rare 49ers-like situation.

We saw how good our defense was to close last season. We saw how efficiently we could move the ball even with an average QB like Orton (he couldn't score in the red zone, but he moved the ball very efficiently).

I dont' know why people forget that this team despite bottom 5 players at QB and RB were playing very good football the second half of the year.
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:15 PM   #7
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It's not a rare 49ers-like situation.

We saw how good our defense was to close last season. We saw how efficiently we could move the ball even with an average QB like Orton (he couldn't score in the red zone, but he moved the ball very efficiently).

I dont' know why people forget that this team despite bottom 5 players at QB and RB were playing very good football the second half of the year.
The Royals will carry that second-half momentum into next year.
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:19 PM   #8
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It's not a rare 49ers-like situation.

We saw how good our defense was to close last season. We saw how efficiently we could move the ball even with an average QB like Orton (he couldn't score in the red zone, but he moved the ball very efficiently).

I dont' know why people forget that this team despite bottom 5 players at QB and RB were playing very good football the second half of the year.
i don't know why you're hung up on last year...

there's nothing about the last 4 games that make them anything but one offs...
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:20 PM   #9
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It's not a rare 49ers-like situation.

We saw how good our defense was to close last season. We saw how efficiently we could move the ball even with an average QB like Orton (he couldn't score in the red zone, but he moved the ball very efficiently).

I dont' know why people forget that this team despite bottom 5 players at QB and RB were playing very good football the second half of the year.

but I was talking TALENT added by Pioli only in terms of drafting.

Any GM could add a veteran like Orton and our momentum last season was carried by a core group of guys that WERE NOT drafted by Pioli. And I am saying that talent will slowly start to leave the Chiefs (i.e. like Carr) and Pioli in 4 years has done a poor job to replenish their voids with playmakers of equal value.

Who will replace Bowe, Albert, Dorsey? Who replaces Carr? These are answers Pioli has done a poor job of addressing and next offseason will be the biggest test if it blows up in his face
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Easily the most damning thing about this article. This is your signature hire and you didn't think to check the guy out?
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Easily the most damning thing about this article. This is your signature hire and you didn't think to check the guy out?
Odd thing is I don't ever remember hearing this before.
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Easily the most damning thing about this article. This is your signature hire and you didn't think to check the guy out?
That can't be true.

My guess is that Dr. Evil has said this in order to excuse the fiasco in some way.

As time goes by, I'm more convinced that Pioli has some sort of severe emotional problem. He's too sneaky by half.

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That can't be true.

My guess is that Dr. Evil has said this in order to excuse the fiasco in some way.

As time goes by, I'm more convinced that Pioli has some sort of severe emotional problem. He's too sneaky by half.

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I don't believe it either. It sounds like the type of excuse a child gives when he tries to side-step the fact that he failed.

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That can't be true.

My guess is that Dr. Evil has said this in order to excuse the fiasco in some way.

As time goes by, I'm more convinced that Pioli has some sort of severe emotional problem. He's too sneaky by half.

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He wanted Haley, he waited for Haley and then Haley went for it on 4th down and Dr. Evil turned on him like a weasel.
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Easily the most damning thing about this article. This is your signature hire and you didn't think to check the guy out?
You know, you are really a ****ing moron. Haley was a very very late hire because Pioli was a very late hire.

And what makes me so irritated at posts like yours is, you don't even do your due diligence in researching the fact that Haley and Pioli go back to the Jets under Parcells during the nineties. They worked together for years.

There is no ****ing excuse for the charades Pioli has woven into his arsenal, yet Clark Hunt seems to keep finding them for dumbasses just like you.
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