Chiefs Glenn Dorsey staying? - Page 11

ShowtimeSBMVP · 03-10-2013, 07:06 PM

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora

Add Glenn Dorsey to growing list of players likely to end up staying with their current teams. KC really trying to retain its own talent ...

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora

Dorsey was as good as gone under old regime, like Bowe. KC already has reworked Tyson Jackson, extended Bowe and franchised Branden Albert

Sorter · 03-10-2013, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

Face it, this franchise was a mess under *****. Bad schemes, poor player personal dealings, everything sucked.

I think guys like Jackson and Dorsey have talent, but for one reason or another they have not been able to realize it under the previous administration. We could do a lot worse than retaining both plays so long as it doesn't break the bank now and in the future.

Those two big boys have something to play for this year.

The "schemes" philosophically speaking, aren't bad provided you have the correct personnel. For all of the Romeo hate (myself included, more specifically lack of agressivnes and creativity out of base fronts). I'm speaking more in terms of philosophy rather than playcalls (as Daboll was atrocious at the latter).

Schemes/philosophy are pretty similar with teams. All teams use similar route concepts and blocking schemes. What separates good from bad is playcalling, gameplanning/use of good statistical analysis in developing your gameplan/having competent QC coaches, and your personnel.

There are very rarely people (that last) that just blindly stick to their principles in the NFL and refuse to follow their gameplans and adjust. If it was just that Romeo's scheme was horrific, then he would have never had success. Example, he held a Peyton Manning team in Indy to 19 points with several limitations on his defense and offensively.

splatbass · 03-10-2013, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

Considering this is a passing league, I kinda wish he played pissed against the pass.

The "this is a passing league" thing is a little overblown. In 2012 the NFL passed 55.8% of the time. This is slightly more a passing league than a running league.

http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/passing-play-pct

Deberg_1990 · 03-10-2013, 09:29 PM

Meh.....I'm so thrilled...yeaaaa

**BossChief** · 03-10-2013, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

The jersey lives!

That's what I'm talking about. I have an authentic Bowe and a Dorsey.

NJChiefsFan · 03-10-2013, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

The "this is a passing league" thing is a little overblown. In 2012 the NFL passed 55.8% of the time. This is slightly more a passing league than a running league.

http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/passing-play-pct

It's not just about those stats. Its about the results of those plays and the rules that allow them to be more successful, especially in the playoffs. Not to mention that winning big games means your QB is making a clutch drive in the final 5 minutes, more likely than not. That last part is what I most think about when I think about what this league is about. It's not just about how many times the ball is passed vs. the run.

Sorter · 03-10-2013, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

The "this is a passing league" thing is a little overblown. In 2012 the NFL passed 55.8% of the time. This is slightly more a passing league than a running league.

http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/passing-play-pct

That statistic you provided shows no insight at all. It doesn't account for playoff teams, teams that ran the ball to run the clock, impact plays, gameplans, and more.

O.city · 03-10-2013, 09:58 PM

I would like to see Dorsey and Poe inside on some 4 man fronts. That could be interesting.

**Dave Lane** · 03-10-2013, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I've come to terms with Joeckel, even if they want him to be the RT.

I will never come to terms with that. I will hate the pick and the player the entire time he is with the team which I hope will be short and filled with horrific injuries.

Not that I'd be bitter or anything.

**The Bad Guy** · 03-10-2013, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

I will never come to terms with that. I will hate the pick and the player the entire time he is with the team which I hope will be short and filled with horrific injuries.

Not that I'd be bitter or anything.

Dear ****ing Jesus.

**BossChief** · 03-10-2013, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

I will never come to terms with that. I will hate the pick and the player the entire time he is with the team which I hope will be short and filled with horrific injuries.

Not that I'd be bitter or anything.

Let's not go overboard.

Hootie · 03-10-2013, 10:11 PM

if it is ****ing Joeckel he better be as good as Joe Thomas and it better make our line so ****ing good that Alex ****ing Smith gets sacked league average rather than 9 times per game like he usually does

Brock · 03-10-2013, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

The "this is a passing league" thing is a little overblown. In 2012 the NFL passed 55.8% of the time. This is slightly more a passing league than a running league.

http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/passing-play-pct

holy shit

Pitt Gorilla · 03-10-2013, 10:15 PM

I would bet that they see Stephenson as the starter.

**BossChief** · 03-10-2013, 10:20 PM

If we take Joeckel at 1, he better be able to handle Von Miller because he will be facing him on that side twice a year.

The guy is a damn good player...it's just a terrible waste of resources to take him that high when we already have Albert.

O.city · 03-10-2013, 10:21 PM

Dunno if I'll wish that kind of hate on whoever we draft, but to each his own I guess.

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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	if it is **ing Joeckel he better be as good as Joe Thomas and it better make our line so ing good that Alex **ing Smith gets sacked league average rather than 9 times per game like he usually does
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Pitt Gorilla Banned! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: NOT Columbia, MO 65201 Casino cash: $2550194	I would bet that they see Stephenson as the starter. __________________ Your son is a bench warmer because of your weak genetics not because of the coach Norlin Mommsen is disgusting.
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2364064	Dunno if I'll wish that kind of hate on whoever we draft, but to each his own I guess.
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