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Old 10-12-2013, 07:34 PM  
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The Oakland Raiders will travel to Arrowhead stadium in Kansas City to face one of the NFL’s remaining undefeated teams. Arrowhead stadium is notoriously loud and is seen as one of the most difficult stadiums to play in. The Chiefs even plan on trying to break the record for loudest stadium that was set by the Seattle Seahawks earlier this season. Their defense is playing lights out and head coach Andy Reid has the offense clicking like it hasn’t in years.

But despite all of that, the Raiders should be able to pull off the win while simultaneously pulling down the curtain and revealing the Chiefs for the team they really are.

Everyone remembers the hot team early in the 2012 season, or do they? Many have likely already forgotten about the Chiefs of 2012, the Arizona Cardinals. Last year, the Cards went 4-0 to start the season and did so almost the exact same way as the Chiefs are doing it this season. Winning behind a strong defense and getting just enough out of a lackluster offense.

The reason that so few remember the hot start by the Cards is because after winning four in a row, they went on to lose nine straight and finished the season 5-11.

The Chiefs certainly look like a better team than the Cardinals did last season. Alex Smith is by no means a great quarterback, but he does what Reid is asking of him very well. The problem is, that offense can really only play well enough to win without an absolutely dominant defense.

The Chiefs are a dink and dunk offense in the truest sense of the term. Yes, they run a west coast offense which does involve a lot of short, dink and dunk style passes, but the Chiefs take that to an extreme. According to Pro Football Focus, of the 108 passes completed by the Chiefs this season, 93 of those passes were nine yards or shorter and more than a quarter of those 93 completions, 25, were passes behind the line of scrimmage.

Meanwhile, the Chiefs have only completed 21 passes for 10 or more yards. Just think about that for a minute, the Chiefs have more completed passes that went negative yards than passes that went more than nine yards. In a league dominated by passing, those are not stats that indicate a team who will be able to continue on an undefeated path.

As the season progresses, teams will obtain more tape on the Chiefs and soon will be able to better pick apart that defense. Once that begins to happen, the NFL could witness another implosion. The offense is simply not capable of competing if the defense cannot hold opponents to minimal points.

Running back Jamaal Charles is easily the biggest offensive weapon for the Chiefs and even he is not having an amazing season. While he does have the sixth most yards in the league, he only has two rushing touchdowns and only one run of more than 20 yards. By comparison, Darren McFadden, who has really only had one good game this season also has two touchdowns but has four 20+ yard runs.

The Chiefs are better than the Cardinals were in 2012, but they are still just a mirage. The Raiders will likely prove to be a much bigger challenge than many assume and may be the first team to reveal the true nature of this Chiefs team.

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Old 10-14-2013, 07:38 AM   #151
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Please provide some evidence for your claim, bolded above. In this thread, the 2011 Cardinals and the 2009 Broncos have already been brought up, contrary to your claim.
You really have nothing, straws reached towards.
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:39 AM   #152
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Teams don't depend on the run anymore, so its a useless stat.
In case you couldn't tell, I was responding to a post claiming that the 2013 KC defense was much better than the 2009 Denver defense in part due to being much better against the run.
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:49 AM   #153
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The Denver rush D was way better than KC's has been so far. Denver allowed 80 ypg through 6 games. KC is allowing 117 ypg.

The fact that they got worse as the season went on is pretty much my entire point.
Lol. Rush D. McCoy is the only back who did anything and that skews stats. Running QBs numbers hurt that total too.

You're still ****ing stupid.
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:50 AM   #154
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:56 AM   #155
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The Denver rush D was way better than KC's has been so far. Denver allowed 80 ypg through 6 games. KC is allowing 117 ypg.

The fact that they got worse as the season went on is pretty much my entire point.
**** you. 10.8 points per game, bitch. Stick your run D up your ****.

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Old 10-14-2013, 07:57 AM   #156
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Ya well when your offense cant out score the opposing team's defense its kinda hard lol....oh and giving up 10 sacks and 3 picks usually doesnt work out so well either typically. Defense baby!!!
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Old 10-14-2013, 08:20 AM   #159
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Lol. Rush D. McCoy is the only back who did anything and that skews stats. Running QBs numbers hurt that total too.

You're still ****ing stupid.
You're talking to a reeruned bronco fan who doesn't realize that. That read option shit and running QBs are why we've given up rushing yards that's it
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You're talking to a reeruned bronco fan who doesn't realize that. That read option shit and running QBs are why we've given up rushing yards that's it
Yup. This is true. That read option was not a thing back in 2009, either. I'd say the Chiefs have done pretty well against it. And they won't be facing many of those types of QBs.

On our way into the stadium my son got into a little trash talking match with some Raiders fans. Of course they were talking about how they have come into Arrowhead and owned the place and we would be losing this game. Naturally, we pointed out the fact that this isn't the same idiot coaching that the Chiefs have had for the past 7 years, either. I would love to have seen those same Raiders fans after this game. Unfortunately, I watched as most Raiders fans throughout the stadium left early.
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You're talking to a reeruned bronco fan who doesn't realize that. That read option shit and running QBs are why we've given up rushing yards that's it
Those read option, running QB teams have played a lot of other teams too, but none of them are giving up 5.1 YPC like the Chiefs are. Only the Lions are worse.

I don't really understand why everyone is so offended by historical comparisons. I know that Denver is very similar to the 2000 Rams, but you don't see me calling people names about it.
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Those read option, running QB teams have played a lot of other teams too, but none of them are giving up 5.1 YPC like the Chiefs are. Only the Lions are worse.

I don't really understand why everyone is so offended by historical comparisons. I know that Denver is very similar to the 2000 Rams, but you don't see me calling people names about it.



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Say whatever you want folks, but this team is built for January.
If we play the Broncos in the cold brutal Denver weather, I'm absolutely taking this team.
Last year the Ravens beat the Broncos by playing great D, running the ball and not turning it over.

Manning will turn it over. He does that every year in the playoffs. Hit him and he'll get scared.
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2 undefeated teams left. Everyone would have guessed Denver but not KC also. Can't wait for Nov. 17. We may lose but I think we can get pressure on manning
There's no doubt you can get pressure on him... hell, we may be without another OL guy for a bit. I think that's 2 centers down and 2 OT's... so, yeah, teams should be able to get more pressure on Manning.

Offensively, the Broncos had a letdown of sorts this week... Manning had 3 turnovers, 1 for a pick six. That won't be a consistent thing, I really just think several players were lazy yesterday and the LB did make a nice jump to grab that INT for the pick six.

Anyway, it's all good... and very interesting to have 2 undefeated teams in the AFCW.
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