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Old 10-31-2014, 04:13 PM  
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Dexter mcluster not the weapon advertised.
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Old 11-01-2014, 03:15 PM   #151
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That's why I like Dorsey and his philosophy. He would never draft such a small guy like this.
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But De' Anthony Thomas??
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Old 11-01-2014, 03:15 PM   #152
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Pioli was enamored with Dex's boy scout image and team captain resume.
Oh that's right. I forgot that Pioli scouted team captains instead of capable playmakers early. Well except Baldwin.

I think Pioli is such a big fraud in many ways.

Berry-a monkey could make this pick
Houston-played in the 3-4 system at Georgia with RAC's friend who is the coach. Hmm think RAC wanted this guy more than Pioli?
Poe-said he wanted to play for RAC. I bet anything RAC was the guy who knew this guy would be good. He has a track record after all.
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Old 11-01-2014, 03:15 PM   #153
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But De Anthony Thomas??
Not that early in the draft. 4th rd absolutely.
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Old 11-01-2014, 03:16 PM   #154
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No, because people clearly don't understand the value of certain draft picks.

Dexter in the 4th would have been a tremendously great pick. An awesome 4th round pick.
Uh, no.
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Old 11-01-2014, 04:14 PM   #155
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Old 11-01-2014, 05:41 PM   #156
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McCluster is an above average 2nd round pick? No way.

He's average at best.
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Old 11-01-2014, 05:51 PM   #157
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1. He was a ****ing awful and ill-timed pick in 2010, and everybody and their ****ing grandmother knew this except for Pioli and Haley. Jamaal Charles had just shown what he could do if you just gave him the damn ball. We had just signed Thomas Jones. We had dudes on the roster who could be kick returners no problem. He NEVER ****ing fit on this team

2. That being said, this franchise operated under the false notion that if you just got him the ball in space, he'd be effective. Well no ****ing shit. If you gave the ball to Mike ****ing DeVito in space, HE would be effective. The point is that the "space" they could find was always on the outside edge as a bubble screen or out of the backfield. Which leads me to...

3. He ****ing sucked getting out of trouble. He was easily tackled if you got a finger on him. He WASN'T even that fast. Jamaal Charles had far more breakaway speed and at least 18 times the vision as a ballcarrier. He had okay hands, which is why we thought he'd make a decent slot receiver, but he never ****ing learned that position until Andy Reid came to town, and even then, it was as a possession guy on 3rd down out of the slot. NOT as the downfield burner to complement Dwayne Bowe, which Haley and Pioli thought he could learn to be.

4. Haley's offense sucked for many reasons, but most of that had to do with idiotic ****ing plays DESIGNED to get McCluster the ball. It took touches away from Charles and Bowe... the two best players in the division at the time of getting yards after the catch/carry, and gave them to this overrated worthless midget who would 90% of the time get tackled in the backfield like a ****ing chump loser asshole. And the play was DRAWN UP that way. That's the only way we could ever get McCluster the ball was in his SPECIAL ****ING PLAY 4 or 5 times per game. He was never there to try to bail out Cassel or be an option to turn to when we needed him like a good receiver/playmaker SHOULD be.

In summary, we HAD what we were looking for out of McCluster in Jamaal Charles. Everybody knew it in 2010 when the pick was made. Except for Pioli and Haley. He represents everything clueless and blind about that Patriot Way regime just like Cassel does. McCluster embodied it perfectly. He was Pioli's bullshit boy ENTITLED to X touches a game because the idiots on the coaching staff and in the front office never stopped believing in the McCluster myth.

And that's ****ing infuriating.
This is the best post I've ever read on McCulster. Spot on.
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Old 11-01-2014, 05:56 PM   #158
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He made All Pro, everything else is just empty shit being thrown around like some angry monkey.

SNR, you're right that he had to be schemed into offensive success... but dont deny that once a good staff came aboard, he produced at an All Pro level, I mean, I totally agree that we're better off these days.

But you're blaming the player for his draft position, that isnt fair at all... particularly when you consider that in his third year he made the ultimate list.

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I agree that Reid got some good out of him.

However, when Reid got here, one of the things he said was thaat he couldn't wait to use McCluster. He mentioned that he looked at drafting him in Philly. After working with him for one year in KC, he let McCluster walk. That should show you what Andy Reid thinks of his talent now.
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Old 11-01-2014, 05:59 PM   #159
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McCluster isn't who you blame for his draft position. It's the incompetent front office that took him in the 2nd that was responsible for that.
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I agree that Reid got some good out of him.

However, when Reid got here, one of the things he said was thaat he couldn't wait to use McCluster. He mentioned that he looked at drafting him in Philly. After working with him for one year in KC, he let McCluster walk. That should show you what Andy Reid thinks of his talent now.
Cant argue with much of that, the only thing I might add is that I'd bet his all pro year upped his value beyond what Reid thought... the cost/benefit didnt pencil out.

Anyway, I've only been posting in here to talk football really, I couldnt care less that Dex is gone or where he was drafted, we have a muuuch improved version of the guy so I'm pleased as punch.
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McCluster isn't who you blame for his draft position. It's the incompetent front office that took him in the 2nd that was responsible for that.
Dex would have went in the 2nd regardless.

He wasn't overdrafted considering the talent in that draft.

Go look at the 2nd round that year. It wasn't that strong overall.
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Old 11-01-2014, 07:06 PM   #163
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Dex would have went in the 2nd regardless.

He wasn't overdrafted considering the talent in that draft.

Go look at the 2nd round that year. It wasn't that strong overall.
You're basically arguing the equivalent of Tyson Jackson going to Cleveland if the Chiefs don't take him means he was a valid top-5 pick. KC and Philly loving McCluster to the point that they rate him two rounds higher than the rest of the league doesn't mean that his draft position is justified, basically.
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Old 11-01-2014, 07:07 PM   #164
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Go look at the 2nd round that year. It wasn't that strong overall.
And yet Dex was the 12th best player in it.

Pretty sure there were several players in the third round who were better, too.

Dexter McCluster did, does and will always be a POS who was drafted too high.
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wasn't Tennessee trying to use McCluster has a RB/Gadget guy instead of a WR/Gadget?

same stupid shit Haley tried

He doesn't have the ability to making people miss with the ball. You have to use his quickness to get to a spot and then throw him the ball behind the defenders.
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