Chiefs Is Dwayne Bowe the most overrated Chief ever? - Page 11

RunKC · 12-21-2014, 10:57 PM

I've been a fan since I can remember, which was just over 20 years ago. I know we have seen some overrated QB's here, but none of them were paid like Bowe at his position is and I can't think of another highly touted player who can't do his job in critical moments and has been thought of as quality for so long.

People also associate Bowe as the Chiefs 2nd best WR since Otis Taylor when in reality we haven't had a true #1 WR in how long?

What say you?

Mr. Laz · 12-22-2014, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

In their first 5 seasons Johnson had 900 more yards, a whole 180 yards a season. While Johnson plays in an offense that has never had a running game and throws the ball 50 times a game. Larry Fitzgerald had 1,000 more yards, a whole 200 yards a season more than Bowe, while having Kurt Warner throwing him the ball in an offense that didn't run the ball but threw it a ton. Bowe had more yards and TDs than Andre Johnson in that same time frame.
God he sucks ass.
I am just using other players, the best, for comparison.

so you comparing Bowe to elite receivers but not REALLY comparing him?

**RealSNR** · 12-22-2014, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

*sigh*

ok, turn your brain on

i'll wait

ready?

too separate issues

When it comes to salary, both Fisher and Bowe are overpaid.

when it comes to general public opinion: Fisher sucks shit, Bowe is great.

Therefore Fisher is not overrated,Bowe is overrated

See how it works? Rating is related to public opinion, not salary.

I asked you for names of people that said Bowe is elite.

I gave you one name of a person who thinks he sucks shit, and you asked your question after mine.

Your turn, dipshit.

**RealSNR** · 12-22-2014, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

so you comparing Bowe to elite receivers but not REALLY comparing him?

Holy ****ing shit you can't be this mother****ing stupid

Chief Roundup · 12-22-2014, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

so you comparing Bowe to elite receivers but not REALLY comparing him?

JESUS ****ING CHRIST Reach down and grab your shoulders and firmly yank so you can remove your head from your ass.

Mr. Laz · 12-22-2014, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant

Holy ****ing bullshit. General public opinion is that Bowe is lazy, not worth the money and would rather smoke pot than play in the NFL.

not around here

most people around here defend Bowe to the death

you being one of them, along with several others

you say Bowe made a mistake of ANY kind and the attacks and endless excuses hit

not only do the excuses start but the exaggerations for effect to increase the bitching start

"Bowe dropped a ball ......."

"Bowe does not suck"
"Why do you hate Bowe"
"You just don't like black people"
"you just don't like how he points to his name"

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-22-2014, 11:47 AM

I'd pay $200 on PPV to watch Laz step on a landmine.

Mr. Laz · 12-22-2014, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Holy ****ing shit you can't be this mother****ing stupid

holy ****ing shit you can't be this much of a pos dickhead

oh wait ....

Sandy Vagina · 12-22-2014, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Dwayne Bowe probably isn't worth league minimum on the Chiefs. We have an offense that doesn't utilize receivers. So, yes, you're right. He isn't worth his contract for the Chiefs.

and that is 0% his fault

Why people keep saying this? Sure, you can say that the WRs don't get enough deep passes their way.. but they do get get plenty of targets.. more of them meant for YAC.. but still. Bowe has been targeted 91 times this year.. and that's also considering he missed the opening week. Know how many times Cassel targeted him in his great 2010 season? 132 times.

We're not talking "doesn't utilize"... that's just dumb.

KC_Connection · 12-22-2014, 11:54 AM

Absurd. Bowe would be a good, productive WR virtually anywhere else in the league. There's not much he (or anybody) can do on a team with a QB who can't/won't throw the ****ing ball.

Chiefnj2 · 12-22-2014, 11:58 AM

Sandy,

Your boy sucks. Move on. Find another hero to follow. Hopefully, not a KC player.

dls6501 · 12-22-2014, 12:02 PM

Calling Bowe overrated is ridiculous. He has played his entire career with below average talent at QB, yet somehow, he is expected to have produced more. Outrageous.

Hootie · 12-22-2014, 12:02 PM

Bowe gets utilized on quick slants and 10 yard digs. That's it. Alex is a 3 step, 1 read QB who gets little help from his offensive line BUT EVEN IF HE DID I still doubt he'd target receivers down field ... since he has NEVER, EVER done it.

He has happy feet and I hate him. Still better than half of the QB's in the NFL, amazingly, but I'm tired of him.

Sandy Vagina · 12-22-2014, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Sandy,

Your boy sucks. Move on. Find another hero to follow.

I'm going to give it another year.. but then, I think I would follow this advice.

RunKC · 12-22-2014, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

RunKC

If Fisher can be overpaid but not overrated, why can't Bowe?

Drafted players get 3 years. He looks like this next year then you cut him.

Pablo · 12-22-2014, 12:12 PM

Sigh, I've read through a couple of pages and I'm sure this is following proper procedure.

Bowe is a guy that right now is probably a realistic high-end #2 WR in an average offense. In an offense as bad as ours, he's our #1, but we still throw at him like he's a 3rd or 4th option. This offense and QB are particularly hilarious when it comes to throwing the football.

I thought I'd seen some shit with Matt Cassel, but even he had the go-ahead/balls to unleash some duck punts for Bowe to go up and grab every now and then.

If he ends up re-structuring his contract/staying, he'll go down as one of the best Chiefs WR ever. Which isn't saying much. Hell, if Alex won a playoff game, he'd go down as one of the Chiefs best QB's ever. That's how sad our approach to the passing game has been in this modern flag-football league.

Bowe isn't great, but he can be a very good player if fed the ball. So, no, he's not most over-rated player ever. He is a convenient scapegoat and a bit of a dumbass at times. Kelce is a dumbass too. So I guess we can get used to people getting pissed at him for the next decade when he drops some passes/gets dumb penalties/fumbles; despite probably being the only good receiving option we'll have with whatever Cassel/Smith/Shitdick clone we bring in next.

12-21-2014, 10:57 PM
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $1949611	Is Dwayne Bowe the most overrated Chief ever? I've been a fan since I can remember, which was just over 20 years ago. I know we have seen some overrated QB's here, but none of them were paid like Bowe at his position is and I can't think of another highly touted player who can't do his job in critical moments and has been thought of as quality for so long. People also associate Bowe as the Chiefs 2nd best WR since Otis Taylor when in reality we haven't had a true #1 WR in how long? What say you?
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KC_Connection Perpetual Mediocrity Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $5072783	Absurd. Bowe would be a good, productive WR virtually anywhere else in the league. There's not much he (or anybody) can do on a team with a QB who can't/won't throw the ****ing ball.
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12-22-2014, 12:02 PM	#161
dls6501 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2014 Casino cash: $9960375	Calling Bowe overrated is ridiculous. He has played his entire career with below average talent at QB, yet somehow, he is expected to have produced more. Outrageous.
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12-22-2014, 12:02 PM	#162
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Bowe gets utilized on quick slants and 10 yard digs. That's it. Alex is a 3 step, 1 read QB who gets little help from his offensive line BUT EVEN IF HE DID I still doubt he'd target receivers down field ... since he has NEVER, EVER done it. He has happy feet and I hate him. Still better than half of the QB's in the NFL, amazingly, but I'm tired of him.
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12-22-2014, 12:12 PM	#165
Pablo Ultrabanned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $1709356	Sigh, I've read through a couple of pages and I'm sure this is following proper procedure. Bowe is a guy that right now is probably a realistic high-end #2 WR in an average offense. In an offense as bad as ours, he's our #1, but we still throw at him like he's a 3rd or 4th option. This offense and QB are particularly hilarious when it comes to throwing the football. I thought I'd seen some shit with Matt Cassel, but even he had the go-ahead/balls to unleash some duck punts for Bowe to go up and grab every now and then. If he ends up re-structuring his contract/staying, he'll go down as one of the best Chiefs WR ever. Which isn't saying much. Hell, if Alex won a playoff game, he'd go down as one of the Chiefs best QB's ever. That's how sad our approach to the passing game has been in this modern flag-football league. Bowe isn't great, but he can be a very good player if fed the ball. So, no, he's not most over-rated player ever. He is a convenient scapegoat and a bit of a dumbass at times. Kelce is a dumbass too. So I guess we can get used to people getting pissed at him for the next decade when he drops some passes/gets dumb penalties/fumbles; despite probably being the only good receiving option we'll have with whatever Cassel/Smith/Shitdick clone we bring in next.
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