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Old 04-19-2017, 04:16 PM   #1
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Because his murder conviction is in appeal, and his recent gun charge will go into appeal...now that he is dead, those appeals cannot be heard and those convictions will be vacated. And while this doesn't help with the civil suits his family/estate will face from the victims families, it does make it so that officially Aaron Hernandez does not have any convictions under his name.

Now what that means in the grand scheme of things is his family is now technically entitled to his NFL pension, his signing bonus and any other money the Patriots owe him. Thus, Hernandez convictions will be vacated now, he is no longer a felon and is owed his nfl pension, his signing bonus and more money that will all technically go to his family.
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Old 04-19-2017, 04:24 PM   #2
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Because his murder conviction is in appeal, and his recent gun charge will go into appeal...now that he is dead, those appeals cannot be heard and those convictions will be vacated. And while this doesn't help with the civil suits his family/estate will face from the victims families, it does make it so that officially Aaron Hernandez does not have any convictions under his name.

Now what that means in the grand scheme of things is his family is now technically entitled to his NFL pension, his signing bonus and any other money the Patriots owe him. Thus, Hernandez convictions will be vacated now, he is no longer a felon and is owed his nfl pension, his signing bonus and more money that will all technically go to his family.
I doubt that signing bonus does; wasn't he suspended indefinitely? I'd have to think that, if nothing else, conduct clauses would kick in that would trigger on any breach of contract action. Or it would get treated like a retirement where any 'unearned' bonus can be recaptured.

Then pension's an interesting animal, presuming it vested.
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Old 04-19-2017, 06:43 PM   #3
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Because his murder conviction is in appeal, and his recent gun charge will go into appeal...now that he is dead, those appeals cannot be heard and those convictions will be vacated. And while this doesn't help with the civil suits his family/estate will face from the victims families, it does make it so that officially Aaron Hernandez does not have any convictions under his name.

Now what that means in the grand scheme of things is his family is now technically entitled to his NFL pension, his signing bonus and any other money the Patriots owe him. Thus, Hernandez convictions will be vacated now, he is no longer a felon and is owed his nfl pension, his signing bonus and more money that will all technically go to his family.
He gets a pension too?

That helps his family, since I heard he was out of money.
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Old 04-19-2017, 06:45 PM   #4
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He gets a pension too?

That helps his family, since I heard he was out of money.
He needs something for his old age.
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Old 04-20-2017, 12:08 PM   #5
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He gets a pension too?

That helps his family, since I heard he was out of money.
Well the other issue is that pensions are generally just for the life of the person that earned them. If the NFL had a couple of different 'cash out' options, I suppose he could've selected one of them at some point.

But there's no to know any of that right now.
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Old 04-19-2017, 07:29 PM   #6
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How did a guy as tall and heavy as Hernandez hang himself from a cell window with a sheet?
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Old 04-19-2017, 08:28 PM   #7
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How did a guy as tall and heavy as Hernandez hang himself from a cell window with a sheet?
Nothing but time and the prison library to figure it out I guess.
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Old 04-20-2017, 06:27 AM   #8
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How did a guy as tall and heavy as Hernandez hang himself from a cell window with a sheet?

I was listening to sports talk radio the morning it happened and a former correction's officer called in. He made it very clear that there is no way to hang yourself like that old guy did near the end of Shawshank Redemption (in a hotel room or flophouse or whatever, not prison, I know).

Instead, Hernandez's feet would have been on the ground, so he got himself into a position where he was choking and resisted the urge to just stand up.
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Old 04-20-2017, 07:47 AM   #9
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I was listening to sports talk radio the morning it happened and a former correction's officer called in. He made it very clear that there is no way to hang yourself like that old guy did near the end of Shawshank Redemption (in a hotel room or flophouse or whatever, not prison, I know).

Instead, Hernandez's feet would have been on the ground, so he got himself into a position where he was choking and resisted the urge to just stand up.
you tie it off, then put your feet against the wall and lean out into it.
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Old 04-20-2017, 01:17 PM   #10
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you tie it off, then put your feet against the wall and lean out into it.
The chance that a knot tied with a sheet is going to be strong enough to hold a 240lb guy in that position is slim imo
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Old 04-20-2017, 01:50 PM   #11
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The chance that a knot tied with a sheet is going to be strong enough to hold a 240lb guy in that position is slim imo

I'm not bothered by that. I've been ina few jail cells and seen plans on a few more, and they are usually very good about prevention on this type of thing, but if it's an older facility less so.
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The chance that a knot tied with a sheet is going to be strong enough to hold a 240lb guy in that position is slim imo
Maybe they're pretty high thread count sheets, like the ones you find at Marriott.
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Old 04-20-2017, 02:00 PM   #13
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LOL, you're crazy.
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