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11-11-2019, 02:01 PM | #151 | |
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Then post up the TOP standings, which shows, again, that it is correlated. Which literally nobody in this ****ing thread is denying, especially me. Then call me a dummy? What the **** are you even arguing here dude? |
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11-11-2019, 02:02 PM | #152 | |
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Time of possession is one of the most overrated statistics there is. We had one of the best offenses of ALL TIME last year and were 27th in time of possession. It's about efficiency. When you score quickly with big strikes, you won't have a ton of time of possession. Are you saying scoring quickly & efficiently is bad?
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11-11-2019, 02:04 PM | #153 | |
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He says TOP is correlated to winning, but is not causal. He also says I'm wrong. |
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11-11-2019, 02:05 PM | #154 | |
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I guess that's my point. You resurrected an old thread, to argue that no one should discuss TOP. Not sure why. Also, I shouldn't call you dummy, but for the record you called me stupid first. ha (and you've starred out like 20 cuss words, so you're obviously bothered by this topic). It sounds like you believe what I believe which is that TOP is important, and should be discussed because it's so highly correlated to W/L..... If that's the case, it actually makes you pretty smart You should walk away from the board and try to relax. Just my $0.02 |
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11-11-2019, 02:05 PM | #155 |
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This team needs to play more TOP the defense is awful
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11-11-2019, 02:06 PM | #156 |
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I haven't looked at all the numbers from last night's game, but the big stats all say we won that game. Scoring efficiency, yards, yards/drive, etc. blah blah blah, the Chiefs dominated the game.
But that's the thing about stats; they don't tell the whole story. They tell different discrete parts of the story. So saying that TOP is a big factor in whether a team wins a game is never going to be 100% accurate. But neither is defensive stops and scores. If defensive stops and scores were really that big a deciding factor, Chip Kelly would still be a HC in the NFL. Stats are like the compound eye of housefly. Each little lens is a window that sees its own tiny part of the world. TOP is one of those windows. So is defensive stops, another is scoring, and so on. But that's only three windows. I'm going to go out on a limb here and that to get a more accurate picture statistically you're going to need at least a half a dozen more stat headings. |
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11-11-2019, 02:07 PM | #157 |
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TOP = Turnovers.
I miss Marty's teams when we dominated the takeaways every single year cause they practiced it. |
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11-11-2019, 02:13 PM | #158 | |
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We scored on 8 possessions. They scored on 4 possessions. The Chiefs defense forced them to punt four times. The Chiefs defense forced a fumble/turnover on the Titans first drive, and a turnover on downs on their second-to-last drive. From that perspective, based on the idea that stops and scores are a deciding factor in winning games, the Chiefs won that game. But they didn't. Because stops and scores don't tell the whole story. So endeth the lesson. |
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11-11-2019, 02:14 PM | #159 | |
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Then you jumped in, agreed with me, then said I was wrong. As far as correlated but we should still discuss it, I don't give a flying **** about TOP. I care that the defense can't get off the field, and when the offense sputters or turns it over, that's what I care about. If that leads to winning TOP, cool, I guess. I just want to ****ing win. And running the ball like Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards isn't the direction I want to go. Anyway, I'm glad we agree. |
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11-11-2019, 02:15 PM | #160 | |
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11-11-2019, 02:17 PM | #161 | |
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The fumble by Williams had a real impact on the game because it took away the potential for a score by us (essentially gave them a stop) AND they scored. That is the shit Reid should be working on, not ****ing Time of Possession. **** stats, scores and stops. That's the ****ing story. |
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11-11-2019, 02:19 PM | #162 | |
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But all these mongoloids blathering on about "BUT TIME OF POSSESSION - MY GOD MAN" are just ****ing wrong. And 150 posts in dudes still don't get it. |
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11-11-2019, 02:22 PM | #163 |
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Yes. TOP is generally a side effect of good football, such as long drives, defensive stops, and positive turnover ratio. TOP itself isn't what wins games.
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11-11-2019, 02:24 PM | #164 |
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Don’t say that too loud. Dudes will come unglued on you. And say things like you obviously never played football.
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11-11-2019, 02:24 PM | #165 |
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Why the **** would you think starting a thread about time of possession is gonna stop people from talking about it?
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