Gaming Computer Build

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Well, I ordered the wrong motherboard and just had to refuse the Newegg.com order. The ASUS Prime Z590-a supports Thunderbolt 4 but the add-on card is $165 dollars and there's no backwards compatibility just yet.

I was forced to order another i9-10850k, because they wouldn't allow me to keep the CPU - I had to return everything. Now, it comes down to the ASUS ProArt Z490-Creator or the Gigabyte Z590 Vision D. The ASUS is nearly $100 dollars less but it would allow me to upgrade the CPU down the line. But wow, $428 dollars after tax and shipping for a motherboard is a lot of dough.

Decisions, decisions.

Every day wishing you’d have ordered the components you wanted is a bad day, in my experience.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by vailpass

Every day wishing you’d have ordered the components you wanted is a bad day, in my experience.

Yeah, it's just man, building computers 5-10 years ago was so much easier because there were only a few options available for Audio PC's. Now, there are so many different iterations of motherboards that's it's really difficult and confusing to figure out which board is best suited for my DAW and interface.

I actually called Gigabyte and ASUS today to confirm which motherboard would work best for my needs and I ended up going with the ASUS ProArt Z490 Creator, which has Native Thunderbolt 3 ports - no add on card. The Gigabyte Z590 Vision D has Thunderbolt 4 and there aren't any backwards compatibility boxes available from TB4 to TB2.

As Pants and Fish mentioned, the other major thing to be aware of is the Lane Sharing of NVMe drives. The ASUS Creator board really only supports one NVMe drive out of the box because if you have two, it not only takes up SATA port 0, but 5 & 6 as well, while also eating up PCIe processing. So, I ended up returning the 1TB Evo 980 because I need at least six hard drives - 3 won't do it, so moving forward, I'll just purchase Thunderbolt drives.

I feel as if I know more than I really wanted to know about all of these different motherboards. Oh well, more useless knowledge to bounce around in my brain.

[TambaBerry]

I've only ever had corsair but recently I've heard seasonic makes most of them. Is 850w enough or should I go bigger? Planning on getting a 3080 if I ever find one

[hometeam]

Originally Posted by TambaBerry

I've only ever had corsair but recently I've heard seasonic makes most of them. Is 850w enough or should I go bigger? Planning on getting a 3080 if I ever find one

im using a seasonic gold 850 for a 5900x, a 3090, AIO, tons of fans, RGB, 32gb ram etc..

I have done max overclocks of the 3090 and 5900x with zero issues. If you are on Ryzen of ny kind you are 100% clear, if high end/power intel, you are likely clear as well, but with less headroom.

[TambaBerry]

Originally Posted by hometeam

im using a seasonic gold 850 for a 5900x, a 3090, AIO, tons of fans, RGB, 32gb ram etc..

I have done max overclocks of the 3090 and 5900x with zero issues. If you are on Ryzen of ny kind you are 100% clear, if high end/power intel, you are likely clear as well, but with less headroom.

Oh I'm a ryzen guy currently running the 1700 haha it's why it's time for an upgrade

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by TambaBerry

I've only ever had corsair but recently I've heard seasonic makes most of them. Is 850w enough or should I go bigger? Planning on getting a 3080 if I ever find one

Seasonic used to make a lot of PSUs for other brands. They used to make the more higher end PSUs for Corsair like their bigger TXM models but those are now made by Great Wall. I believe the only Corsair PSUs manufactured by Seasonic these days are a couple of their AX (non i) models.

XFX PSUs are all Seasonic.

Seasonic is one of the best makers you can buy from but they arent the only one. Super Flower is another really good manufacturer and they make the EVGA G2 and G3 which are 2 of the most highly rated PSUs on the market, along with all the other B/T/P 2&3 series PSUs.

[DaneMcCloud]

This has been an unadulterated nightmare.

Not only was the Gigabyte Z490 Vision D defective, the Samsung 980 NVMe drive is defective as well. I've had errors with Windows 10 Pro all week and had to reload the operation system 4 times. I've spent more than 10 hours on with Microsoft Support and while I thought it was "fixed" Wednesday evening, it wouldn't even boot today. And unfortunately, this is after I spent about 20 hours installing all of my necessary software.

My old drive is working on the computer (which is what I'm using right now) but it's only 250 GB, so I ordered another NVMe drive that will arrive tomorrow. I've wasted six days of my life trying to get this to work and either failure rate is higher than ever or I'm just having the worst luck of all time but either way, this has been a very, very discouraging experience.

I hope this computer, once it's finally working properly, will last me 6 years because I cannot imagine going through this process again any time soon.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This has been an unadulterated nightmare.

Not only was the Gigabyte Z490 Vision D defective, the Samsung 980 NVMe drive is defective as well. I've had errors with Windows 10 Pro all week and had to reload the operation system 4 times. I've spent more than 10 hours on with Microsoft Support and while I thought it was "fixed" Wednesday evening, it wouldn't even boot today. And unfortunately, this is after I spent about 20 hours installing all of my necessary software.

My old drive is working on the computer (which is what I'm using right now) but it's only 250 GB, so I ordered another NVMe drive that will arrive tomorrow. I've wasted six days of my life trying to get this to work and either failure rate is higher than ever or I'm just having the worst luck of all time but either way, this has been a very, very discouraging experience.

I hope this computer, once it's finally working properly, will last me 6 years because I cannot imagine going through this process again any time soon.

Man, I don't get it. I build I range of systems for gaming and business customers, and I've never had those kinds of issues, let alone at the same time. Do you have magnetic fingers or what? 2 bad parts at the same time? That's gotta be the worst luck mathematically possible...

Sorry, not trying to make fun.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Fish

Man, I don't get it. I build I range of systems for gaming and business customers, and I've never had those kinds of issues, let alone at the same time. Do you have magnetic fingers or what? 2 bad parts at the same time? That's gotta be the worst luck mathematically possible...

Sorry, not trying to make fun.

No worries, Dude. I've put off building a computer for a couple of years because I expected it to be a PITA but I didn't expect to be this big of a PITA. I've been building PC's since 1997 and this is the first time I've had so many defective parts.

Clearly, Gigabyte support was wrong. The initial power supply wasn't the issue at all because the CPU LED was lit after replacement. I sent back the motherboard, which I believe was the culprit all along, and the CPU, just to be certain.

The ASUS Z490 Creator 10G is working as it should, as is the replacement i9-10850k. But after initially loading Windows, I had all kinds of issues. I contacted Microsoft Support Chat and had a tech login to my computer to make changes, but they didn't take, as the same issues returned the following day. I logged back into Windows support in which the tech reinstalled Windows but I kept receiving error messages.

After reinstalling two more times, I finally received an error message related to the hardware, which Microsoft identified as the hard drive. So, I plugged in my old SSD and boom! Everything worked as expected but since that drive is only 250 GB, I ordered another Samsung NVMe 980 from Amazon, which was supposed to be delivered Saturday. I did several memory tests, including the Windows test, which took more than 2 hours, and everything came back good.

But on Saturday at 4:30, I received an email from Amazon stating that the drive wouldn't be delivered until the following Thursday, so I cancelled the order and purchased a 970 from Best Buy, which is the only NVMe I could find locally.

It's booting properly with no hang ups and no error codes, so I'm pretty sure it was just a faulty drive. Programs load so fast that I barely even see them load, which is a good sign. In the end, I received a defective motherboard and a defective NVMe drive, which wasn't really unexpected but it made it difficult to figure out what was causing the issue.

Thanks again for all of the assistance!

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This has been an unadulterated nightmare.

Not only was the Gigabyte Z490 Vision D defective, the Samsung 980 NVMe drive is defective as well. I've had errors with Windows 10 Pro all week and had to reload the operation system 4 times. I've spent more than 10 hours on with Microsoft Support and while I thought it was "fixed" Wednesday evening, it wouldn't even boot today. And unfortunately, this is after I spent about 20 hours installing all of my necessary software.

My old drive is working on the computer (which is what I'm using right now) but it's only 250 GB, so I ordered another NVMe drive that will arrive tomorrow. I've wasted six days of my life trying to get this to work and either failure rate is higher than ever or I'm just having the worst luck of all time but either way, this has been a very, very discouraging experience.

I hope this computer, once it's finally working properly, will last me 6 years because I cannot imagine going through this process again any time soon.

Damn man. Have you broken any mirrors, walked under a ladder, or had a bunch of black cats cross your path lately?

[Dayze]

If / when I ever attempt to build a gaming computer myself...it's guarnateed, i'll have the same experience as Dane lol.

one of those 'whatever can go wrong, will go wrong" when I decide to do it. Guarnatee.
That's my biggest reservation about atttempting to build one myself. hell, and if Dane knows what he's doing and ran into this stuff....I'm screwed as a newbie.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Dayze

If / when I ever attempt to build a gaming computer myself...it's guarnateed, i'll have the same experience as Dane lol.

one of those 'whatever can go wrong, will go wrong" when I decide to do it. Guarnatee.
That's my biggest reservation about atttempting to build one myself. hell, and if Dane knows what he's doing and ran into this stuff....I'm screwed as a newbie.

[Dayze]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Pretty much.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by jd1020

This gives me terrible anxiety....