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**Saul Good** · 09:06 PM

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eazyb81 · 02-14-2012, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants

Opp FG% (bolded to make it easier for you to understand):

1. Kansas
2. Texas A&M
3. Kansas State
4. Baylor
5. Texas
6. Texas Tech
7. Oklahoma State
8. Iowa State
9. Oklahoma
10. Missouri

Opponent FG % is not a proxy for best defense you nitwit. It is one specific defensive metric. For instance, it wouldn't matter if a team had a terrible opponent FG % if they combined that 50 steals a game.

You really are a moron aren't you?

KC_Connection · 02-14-2012, 12:31 PM

As ignorant as the Tyshawn Turnover nickname is (considering he's one of the best guards in the country), at least I get it. He's a turnover-prone guard at times.

But Worthless Withey? The guy that's been completely dominating basketball games for KU over the last few weeks? The guy who has turned himself from a complete scrub in the matter of a few months to one of the best defensive and efficient bigs in the country (and a likely future 1st round pick)? Try harder.

Pants · 02-14-2012, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Opponent FG % is not a proxy for best defense you nitwit. It is one specific defensive metric. For instance, it wouldn't matter if a team had a terrible opponent FG % if they combined that 50 steals a game.

You really are a moron aren't you?

No reason to call names, man, I'm just trying to help you understand these things. This is why KSU handled you and only scored 18 on us in the 1st half.

**Dartgod** · 02-14-2012, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

But Worthless Withey? The guy that's been completely dominating basketball games for KU over the last few weeks? The guy who has turned himself from a complete scrub in the matter of a few months to one of the best defensive and efficient bigs in the country (and a likely future 1st round pick)? Try harder.

He's done pretty well against teams not named Mizzou.

eazyb81 · 02-14-2012, 12:33 PM

I like Worthless Withey. He was pretty worthless when he played Mizzou. I'll consider changing the name if he shows up in the second game.

KC_Connection · 02-14-2012, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Actually that isn't a fact. According to kenpom Mizzou has the 6th best defense in the Big 12, which we combine with the best offense in the country.

Tyshawn couldn't even make the top 20 list of the best PGs in the country without ku getting on their knees and begging. How embarrassing. Guess who got on without having to beg? Flip Pressey. And Dixon might be better than him.

As recently as Saturday, KenPom also listed Tyshawn Taylor has one of his top 10 best statistical players in the country. Not just guards, but players.

Know your sources.

Pants · 02-14-2012, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

I like Worthless Withey. He was pretty worthless when he played Mizzou. I'll consider changing the name if he shows up in the second game.

Can you imagine if he decided to show up in that game? You guys would have been blown out in your own place.

KC_Connection · 02-14-2012, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

I like Worthless Withey. He was pretty worthless when he played Mizzou. I'll consider changing the name if he shows up in the second game.

I'd love to know how a poor performance in a single game changes anything I said about his tremendous progression as a player and his otherwise consistent production.

There is nothing worthless about him. If he stays around next year, his presence alone will assure that KU's defense will be elite again.

eazyb81 · 02-14-2012, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants

No reason to call names, man, I'm just trying to help you understand these things. This is why KSU handled you and only scored 18 on us in the 1st half.

So do you now understand why opponent FG % is not a pure comparison to true defensive ranking, or are you finally conceding the argument?

It is actually shocking you allowed 50+ points to that Ecokat team. I don't think they had a gameplan other than throw it up and try to get a quick putback. They have significantly regressed over the last month or so.

eazyb81 · 02-14-2012, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants

Can you imagine if he decided to show up in that game? You guys would have been blown out in your own place.

Woulda shoulda coulda. Withey does well against middle of the pack teams but Self knew he couldn't guard English. I don't see any reason why that will change in the second game.

KC_Connection · 02-14-2012, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants

Can you imagine if he decided to show up in that game? You guys would have been blown out in your own place.

I don't think he wants to imagine a KU team with three major difference makers. Two was enough to beat them on the road before Denmon stepped in to save the day (with an assist from the refs).

eazyb81 · 02-14-2012, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I don't think he wants to imagine a KU team with three major difference makers. Two was enough to beat them on the road before Denmon stepped in to save the day (with an assist from the refs).

Speaking of refs, hopefully the crew that worked last night's game doesn't show up for the game in Lawrence. The Miami Heat would have trouble beating ku when the refs are blatantly ignoring pushoffs, over the backs, and obvious technicals like they did last night.

Obviously the Big 12 will want ku to win the game, but at least attempt to keep it from being too obvious for the sake of the sport.

KC_Connection · 02-14-2012, 12:48 PM

KU will get their fair share of calls at AFH. I don't think you have to worry about that.

FishingRod · 02-14-2012, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Speaking of refs, hopefully the crew that worked last night's game doesn't show up for the game in Lawrence. The Miami Heat would have trouble beating ku when the refs are blatantly ignoring pushoffs, over the backs, and obvious technicals like they did last night.

Obviously the Big 12 will want ku to win the game, but at least attempt to keep it from being too obvious for the sake of the sport.

So do you think it will be blatant in Lawrence, like calling the fouls 2-1 for the home team?

**Bearcat** · 02-14-2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Speaking of refs, hopefully the crew that worked last night's game doesn't show up for the game in Lawrence. The Miami Heat would have trouble beating ku when the refs are blatantly ignoring pushoffs, over the backs, and obvious technicals like they did last night.

Obviously the Big 12 will want ku to win the game, but at least attempt to keep it from being too obvious for the sake of the sport.

The big mean refs and the Big 12 jerks are on KU's side... the excuses are already rolling in. Kansas might not even need any miracle 3s or their A+++ game.

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KC_Connection Perpetual Mediocrity Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $1742783	As ignorant as the Tyshawn Turnover nickname is (considering he's one of the best guards in the country), at least I get it. He's a turnover-prone guard at times. But Worthless Withey? The guy that's been completely dominating basketball games for KU over the last few weeks? The guy who has turned himself from a complete scrub in the matter of a few months to one of the best defensive and efficient bigs in the country (and a likely future 1st round pick)? Try harder.
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