Chiefs People blaming Cassel for this loss are clearly maladjusted freaks. - Page 12

yhf · 10-17-2010, 10:06 PM

For Christs sake, blame the coaches, blame the refs, blame the defense.

Do NOT blame Matt Cassel. He provided a winning effort.

C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT RATING
M. Cassel 20/29 201 6.9 3 0 122.9

Anyone that asks for more production, is, a dumb****.

Don't get me wrong, I doubt the shit out of Cassel, but his performance in this game was extremely encouraging. Any purported Chiefs fan that wasn't impressed and pleased by his play should just... get a ****ing grip.

Ebolapox · 10-18-2010, 06:04 AM

maladjusted freaks? one of the more intriguing insults I've seen in a while.

**Bane** · 10-18-2010, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by yhf

For Christs sake, blame the coaches, blame the refs, blame the defense.

Do NOT blame Matt Cassel. He provided a winning effort.

C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT RATING
M. Cassel 20/29 201 6.9 3 0 122.9

I have to agree that Matt Cassel played very well yesterday.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-18-2010, 08:27 AM

So, it's official.

We're so starved for decent QB play that a 200 yard day against the 32nd ranked pass defense is an excellent day.

With that said, this loss isn't solely on Cassel, and I don't see anyone claiming as much.

I do, however, see some people have put on their objectivity hats and pointing out that you can't disappear in the 4th quarter of a game and expect to win.

It happened on both sides of the ball.

I can only hope that Todd's message isn't about being the victim of a bad call, but pointing out that you have to play a full 60 minutes to win in this league, not 53.

Our offense held the ball for 55 seconds in the last 7:05 - not counting the last possession.

That's unacceptable.

The defense allowed 14 points in the last 7 minutes.

That's unacceptable.

Both sides of the ball contributed to the loss, and ST and coaching didn't exactly help either.

**Lzen** · 10-18-2010, 08:29 AM

Sigh....I'll just quote myself from the game thread again.

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I said it in the game thread and I'll say it again here.

Cassel had a good game. Except for a few key plays at the end. His throw to Moeaki at the end was shitty. He made two horrible throws to open receivers on the last drive. He doesn't get a pass just because he had a decent game for 57 mins or so against the worst pass defense in the NFL.

keg in kc · 10-18-2010, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by H5N1

maladjusted freaks? one of the more intriguing insults I've seen in a while.

I've always taken a certain amount of pride in being a maladjusted freak.

Micjones · 10-18-2010, 08:32 AM

Cassel isn't the bad guy here. 122 QB rating yesterday.
Arguably his best game as a Chief. Only 9 incompletions the entire day.
And I have long given up hope that he's the QBOTF, but yesterday...he did his damn job.

stevieray · 10-18-2010, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Cassel isn't the bad guy here. 122 QB rating yesterday.
Arguably his best game as a Chief. Only 9 incompletions the entire day.
And I have long given up hope that he's the QBOTF, but yesterday...he did his damn job.

did you watch the skins/colts game?

PM had a chance to seal the game after the Redskins final score, and he threw three incompletions, and then when the 41 million guaranteed DM had the chance to go 80 yards in 32 seconds and win the game, he did WHAT?

...talk about crappy franchise QB play. PM keeps winning in spite of himself.

**Lzen** · 10-18-2010, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

It's not your ****ing money...

Why the **** does anyone care what Matt Cassel is paid?

There is no salary cap...and if there was...we'd be so far below the cap it wouldn't even matter...

so why the **** is that even part of the argument?

Who the **** cares?

If you don't understand the significance then there's no point in even discussing things with you.

It has major implications on a lot of other things. I'm sorry that you're too naive or uneducated to understand that.

Micjones · 10-18-2010, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

did you watch the skins/colts game?

PM had a chance to seal the game after the Redskins final score, and he threw three incompletions, and then when the 41 million guaranteed DM had the chance to go 80 yards in 32 seconds and win the game, he did WHAT?

...talk about crappy franchise QB play. PM keeps winning in spite of himself.

Manning has a 103.4 QB Rating this season.
13 TD's to just 2 Interceptions. 67% completion percentage...

What are you talking about?

Oh Snap · 10-18-2010, 01:02 PM

I wont pin this loss on cassel. He does need to continue to improve, and I hope to god he does!

This game was not won or lost by cassel though. The defense gave up way to much yardage, was unable to get off the field on third down, and gave up to many TDs. Its the defenses fault we lost this game...cassel played good enough to win.

People need to understand that we do not have a peyton manning or a tom brady. I recall Tom Brady used to sucking...Now, cassel isnt a brady, but it could happen. Look at drew brees in 2003...he was horrible! So players can transform and become better. Im hoping cassel can do the same. He played well yesterday, and lets hope he learned a lot. His confidence needs to improve...he needs to quit trying to make things happen by forcing the ball. take the check downs if the long pass isnt there.

Thats what I see most with Cassel, Hes trying to make the play to quite all the skeptics..I dont blame him either, but ya gotta slow things down....Also, why didnt they give him the run option on that 3rd and 2? Roll him out and see if he can run for the first down if the pass isnt there..dont restrict him.

Chiefs Pantalones · 10-18-2010, 01:16 PM

This loss wasn't on Cassel and the offense. Anytime you score 31 points you should win the game unless the defense doesn't do their job. The same people that are blaming this loss on Cassel are the same people that blamed Trent Green for our losses when we'd lose every game 35-38 in the early 2000s. When you see a loss of that score anyone that is smart thinks "thanks for sucking it defense, we scored enough to win."

Pants · 10-18-2010, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

GoChiefs is wrong.

Matt Cassel played well today...and he had a great command of the offense...something I hadn't seen from him...he was borderline excellent.

If our "vaunted" D shows up...we win that game. No doubt. No doubt at all...

and shit...

Cassel even made our abused offensive line (in pass protection) look good today with his mobility.

He could have made more plays...but so could anyone...

This was his BEST game as a Chief...hands down...and he played as well as anyone could ask.

This was on the defense today...and the special teams...and maybe even the pass protection a bit.

He was in such command that we got a ****ING DELAY OF GAME AFTER A ****ING TIMEOUT.

Such great command, I have never seen in my life.

Pants · 10-18-2010, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

This loss wasn't on Cassel and the offense. Anytime you score 31 points you should win the game unless the defense doesn't do their job. The same people that are blaming this loss on Cassel are the same people that blamed Trent Green for our losses when we'd lose every game 35-38 in the early 2000s. When you see a loss of that score anyone that is smart thinks "thanks for sucking it defense, we scored enough to win."

Well, I guess the Texans' defense didn't do their job either, yet somehow they still won. Oh wait, I know how - they have a real QB who doesn't shit his pants in the face of pressure (both mental and actual pressure from defenders).

Tom_A_Hawk · 10-18-2010, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

Well, I guess the Texans' defense didn't do their job either, yet somehow they still won. Oh wait, I know how - they have a real QB who doesn't shit his pants in the face of pressure (both mental and actual pressure from defenders).

I love the circular arguments

I am in agreement with you. The Defense shit the bed this one game. I am not blaming the D when they did more than anyone expected out of them the first 4 games. We have to rely on the QB once and awhile the way Schaub was relied upon. We will never be able to do that with Cassel.

Johnny Vegas · 10-18-2010, 01:28 PM

this was a coaching, play calling failure is what this weeks game outcome was. Haley has got to stop going for it on 4th down when theres 0 points on the board and in the red zone. There's been plenty of times, including the Colts game, where an extra 3-6 points would make a difference. I don't mind him gambling certain 4th downs, but 1st-2nd quarter field goal opportunities shouldn't be wasted especially when both teams haven't put up points yet.

10-17-2010, 10:06 PM
yhf Starter Join Date: May 2010 Location: OPKS Casino cash: $10004925	People blaming Cassel for this loss are clearly maladjusted freaks. For Christs sake, blame the coaches, blame the refs, blame the defense. Do NOT blame Matt Cassel. He provided a winning effort. C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT RATING M. Cassel 20/29 201 6.9 3 0 122.9 Anyone that asks for more production, is, a dumb**. Don't get me wrong, I doubt the shit out of Cassel, but his performance in this game was extremely encouraging. Any purported Chiefs fan that wasn't impressed and pleased by his play should just... get a **ing grip.
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10-18-2010, 06:04 AM	#166
Ebolapox remember, remember Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: como Casino cash: $1799903	maladjusted freaks? one of the more intriguing insults I've seen in a while.
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10-18-2010, 08:27 AM	#168
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $4791115	So, it's official. We're so starved for decent QB play that a 200 yard day against the 32nd ranked pass defense is an excellent day. With that said, this loss isn't solely on Cassel, and I don't see anyone claiming as much. I do, however, see some people have put on their objectivity hats and pointing out that you can't disappear in the 4th quarter of a game and expect to win. It happened on both sides of the ball. I can only hope that Todd's message isn't about being the victim of a bad call, but pointing out that you have to play a full 60 minutes to win in this league, not 53. Our offense held the ball for 55 seconds in the last 7:05 - not counting the last possession. That's unacceptable. The defense allowed 14 points in the last 7 minutes. That's unacceptable. Both sides of the ball contributed to the loss, and ST and coaching didn't exactly help either.
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10-18-2010, 08:32 AM	#171
Micjones Whose house? Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $10005180	Cassel isn't the bad guy here. 122 QB rating yesterday. Arguably his best game as a Chief. Only 9 incompletions the entire day. And I have long given up hope that he's the QBOTF, but yesterday...he did his damn job. __________________ It's like when I'm right I'm right, when I'm wrong I could been right, so I'm still right cause I coulda been wrong.
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10-18-2010, 01:02 PM	#175
Oh Snap Veteran Join Date: Nov 2005 Casino cash: $9064925	I wont pin this loss on cassel. He does need to continue to improve, and I hope to god he does! This game was not won or lost by cassel though. The defense gave up way to much yardage, was unable to get off the field on third down, and gave up to many TDs. Its the defenses fault we lost this game...cassel played good enough to win. People need to understand that we do not have a peyton manning or a tom brady. I recall Tom Brady used to sucking...Now, cassel isnt a brady, but it could happen. Look at drew brees in 2003...he was horrible! So players can transform and become better. Im hoping cassel can do the same. He played well yesterday, and lets hope he learned a lot. His confidence needs to improve...he needs to quit trying to make things happen by forcing the ball. take the check downs if the long pass isnt there. Thats what I see most with Cassel, Hes trying to make the play to quite all the skeptics..I dont blame him either, but ya gotta slow things down....Also, why didnt they give him the run option on that 3rd and 2? Roll him out and see if he can run for the first down if the pass isnt there..dont restrict him.
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10-18-2010, 01:16 PM	#176
Chiefs Pantalones GO CHIEFS!!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $7888717	This loss wasn't on Cassel and the offense. Anytime you score 31 points you should win the game unless the defense doesn't do their job. The same people that are blaming this loss on Cassel are the same people that blamed Trent Green for our losses when we'd lose every game 35-38 in the early 2000s. When you see a loss of that score anyone that is smart thinks "thanks for sucking it defense, we scored enough to win." __________________ Don't be fooled by my username, I'm white.
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10-18-2010, 01:28 PM	#180
Johnny Vegas MVP Join Date: May 2008 Casino cash: $5643814	this was a coaching, play calling failure is what this weeks game outcome was. Haley has got to stop going for it on 4th down when theres 0 points on the board and in the red zone. There's been plenty of times, including the Colts game, where an extra 3-6 points would make a difference. I don't mind him gambling certain 4th downs, but 1st-2nd quarter field goal opportunities shouldn't be wasted especially when both teams haven't put up points yet.
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