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Bruce Mathews, arguuably the best O-Lineman to ever play the game, said he felt Fisher and Joekel would both struggle their first year even more so if they were made to switch sides. He said he felt that Joekel might be better suited at RT after it's all said and done, but said that Fisher had all the tools to excell at either RT or LT once when he settled in. Said Fisher had a lot of upside. When asked about his personal experience, he said that he hated being moved around the O-Line and when he was, the learning started from square 1. He said for rookies playing a new position, it's two-fold becasue they're getting used to the speed of the game AND they have to deal with opposite blocking techniques. He said he remembers his rookie year and how much he struggled (once gave up 5 sacks in one game to Dallas) and he was playing his normal position. He would have hated to have been made to switch positions right from the beginning. I'm inclined to listen to Bruce Mathews when it comes to his opinions on O-Lineman. To all who are already screaming,"BUST, " Give Fish time...
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This isn't about sides it's about basic technique. You shuffle, drop, push. You have to be able to anticipate the rusher and know exactly when to shuffle, when to drop your level, when to set and push. He just has no natural instinct for it. Fish isn't beaten BLOCKING he's beaten right off the snap and he's pushed back from there. There's no reason to rush outside when mediocre rushers can use leverage and push him into the QB. If it were up to me I'd have taken a value-face-raping to trade down (like the Raiders) and taken Warmack and used the best available scrub to continue sucking at RT....
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Watched the game with an eye towards Fisher:
2 Really good plays (all during the final time-killing drive) 20 OK plays where he at least didn't screw things up completely 11 bad plays where he contributed to the cluster**** 7 atrocious plays where he was solely responsible All the other plays he was either not involved in where the play was going or just didn't factor into anything On 18 plays he had help from Asamoah to double team the outside rusher He has terrible balance and ends up on the ground more often than not On a couple plays that went away from him where he was engaging NOBODY he ended up on the ground (!?) Most of the QB pressure he gave up came from him being beat 4-5 times with very simple swim moves to the inside. |
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You want to beat Fish? Bull rush hard then swat/swim and you're in...
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That's basic. He ran good drills and that's all well and good but at this level he's awkward and plays way too high.
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I think you are dismissing the real difficulty of switching sides, Rausch.
Technique is technique, as you say. However, you are reversing everything. It's like trying to write words backwords. You have to think about it, and it slows you down from the start.
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My argument is not that he isn't big or strong it's that he doesn't use it EVEN THE IN THE MOST BASIC FOOTBALL SENSE. He doesn't lower his level when he comes in contact with a rusher. This is my first argument. His legs move slower than the rusher (he doesn't shuffle/keep up) off the line and his natural freakish ability to block are negated and he can be (and constantly is) pushed back. As you retreat every step (pass blocking) you push and punch and hand fight on the pass rusher at an angle that's advantageous to YOU AS A BLOCKER (doing all you can to keep him off balance) and disadvantageous to HIM as a rusher nearly every step. He's the exact opposite as Hudson. Hudson uses leverage to blow people out of the play by finding where/how to hit them. Fish has the talent and strength to blow people up but gets face-raped on leverage...
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