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Old 07-11-2013, 10:13 AM   #1
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Oh yeah and McNabb has been "butthurt" since he was traded by the Eagles.
This.

He's suffering from "could have been" syndrome...
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Old 07-11-2013, 10:21 AM   #2
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This.

He's suffering from "could have been" syndrome...
He had a damn near HOF career, no need to get all butthurt.
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Old 07-11-2013, 10:36 AM   #3
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Oh yeah and McNabb has been "butthurt" since he was traded by the Eagles.

That's exactly right.
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Old 07-11-2013, 10:43 AM   #4
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Oh yeah and McNabb has been "butthurt" since he was traded by the Eagles.
Who cares? He's still right about Stafford.

Someone please explain to me why Stafford deserved this extension when he had a year left on his contract with an option for 2014?
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Old 07-11-2013, 10:48 AM   #5
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Who cares? He's still right about Stafford.

Someone please explain to me why Stafford deserved this extension when he had a year left on his contract with an option for 2014?
Probably cuz there's not much out there.

There's no QB's coming out in the near future like Luck, Griffin, etc.

Who they gonna draft, Geno Smith?
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Probably cuz there's not much out there.

There's no QB's coming out in the near future like Luck, Griffin, etc.

Who they gonna draft, Geno Smith?
That's a terrible reason. He was already under contract for ths year and they could have picked up his option for 2014.

Stafford is 1-22 against teams that finish with winning records. He's led the Lions to 2-14, 6-10, 10-6 and 4-12 records. Last year, he threw 20TD's and 17 INT's in a division with teams, other than the Bears, with middling-to-poor defenses.

Acting as if this was somehow a "no-brainier" for Detroit is outright ridiculous.
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That's a terrible reason. He was already under contract for ths year and they could have picked up his option for 2014.

Stafford is 1-22 against teams that finish with winning records. He's led the Lions to 2-14, 6-10, 10-6 and 4-12 records. Last year, he threw 20TD's and 17 INT's in a division with teams, other than the Bears, with middling-to-poor defenses.

Acting as if this was somehow a "no-brainier" for Detroit is outright ridiculous.

I didn't say it was a no-brainer.

Personally I don't give a shit.

But one thing is he definitely got paid.
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It's a shaky decision in that they're paying him for what they hope he brings, not rewarding him for what he's done.

It's the at free agency should be approached but its a scary way to do it.

If you approach free agency in terms of rewarding guys for what they've done, you end up with Albert Pujols
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I really didn't think people were serious about the Alex Smith/Stafford comparisons.

I'm not a Stafford fan, but I would have given up our first and second THIS year for him before I gave up a 2nd this year and a 2nd next year for Smith. Wouldn't even be something to think about.
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I really didn't think people were serious about the Alex Smith/Stafford comparisons.

I'm not a Stafford fan, but I would have given up our first and second THIS year for him before I gave up a 2nd this year and a 2nd next year for Smith. Wouldn't even be something to think about.
Yea, but he wasn't available so its moot point.

Every thread turns into a Smith sucks thread and the guy hasn't thrown a pass yet.

CP has lost its burst.
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Old 07-11-2013, 01:27 PM   #11
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I really didn't think people were serious about the Alex Smith/Stafford comparisons.

I'm not a Stafford fan, but I would have given up our first and second THIS year for him before I gave up a 2nd this year and a 2nd next year for Smith. Wouldn't even be something to think about.
It depends on your system. With Stafford short range accuracy problems, he wouldn't fit a west coast offense at all. That's the only upside I gave to Alex Smith over Stafford. Of course from a physical stand point is this even comparable? The guy is a prototype qb. Rocket arm, big, decently mobile. just not overly accurate, which is why a guy like Mike Vick, sucked so badly in this offense. And guys like Rich Gannon, and Jeff Garcia, thrived in it.

For, THIS OFFENSE, Stafford would be a huge waste.
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It depends on your system. With Stafford short range accuracy problems, he wouldn't fit a west coast offense at all. That's the only upside I gave to Alex Smith over Stafford. Of course from a physical stand point is this even comparable? The guy is a prototype qb. Rocket arm, big, decently mobile. just not overly accurate, which is why a guy like Mike Vick, sucked so badly in this offense. And guys like Rich Gannon, and Jeff Garcia, thrived in it.

For, THIS OFFENSE, Stafford would be a huge waste.
Vick had 9000 yards 60% completion 52 TDs and 30 INTs with an 88 passer rating the past 3 years. He also had 1700 yards and 13 rushing TDs. "Sucked badly" is hardly accurate. He declined because of his age and the hits he was taking.
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Vick had 9000 yards 60% completion 52 TDs and 30 INTs with an 88 passer rating the past 3 years. He also had 1700 yards and 13 rushing TDs. "Sucked badly" is hardly accurate. He declined because of his age and the hits he was taking.
Vick was garbage in Atlanta. Highly overrated.
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It depends on your system. With Stafford short range accuracy problems, he wouldn't fit a west coast offense at all. That's the only upside I gave to Alex Smith over Stafford. Of course from a physical stand point is this even comparable? The guy is a prototype qb. Rocket arm, big, decently mobile. just not overly accurate, which is why a guy like Mike Vick, sucked so badly in this offense. And guys like Rich Gannon, and Jeff Garcia, thrived in it.

For, THIS OFFENSE, Stafford would be a huge waste.
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Vick had 9000 yards 60% completion 52 TDs and 30 INTs with an 88 passer rating the past 3 years. He also had 1700 yards and 13 rushing TDs. "Sucked badly" is hardly accurate. He declined because of his age and the hits he was taking.
so he averaged 3000 yards, less than 20 tds, and 10 ints. the rushing is impressive, but the passing stats, aren't impressive at all when you think about it. Now, what are those numbers if you take away that first season where he was awesome, and you find the average of the past two, which by the way have gotten worse, and so bad in fact, that he got benched by THE FRONT OFFICE, for Nick Foles. '
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