Raiders running game is overrated, ours is legit.

[Hammock Parties]

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/39970275/ns/sports-nfl/

Yes, good teams usually run well. They do a lot of things well; otherwise, they wouldn’t be good teams. But rushing totals are often inflated by clock-killing drives late in games, when the winning team hands off up the middle seven times just to get everybody home in time for dinner. Our Big Four rushing teams might not be smashmouth teams at all: they may just be teams that spend a lot of fourth quarters nursing a lead.

Kansas City Chiefs

190.4 yards per game, 5.2 yards per carry, 6 TD

Fluff factor: Low. The Chiefs have generated just 101 "Ice the Win" yards.


Fast fact: The Chiefs average an extraordinary 6.8 yards per rush on first down. First-down runs of 56 and 70 yards inflate that figure, but even without the big gains, the Chiefs are an excellent first-down rushing team. Against the Bills alone, they ran for 18, 11, 13, 18, 12, 10, and 13 yards on first down. With production like that, the Chiefs can hammer second-rate defenses without taking to the air.


Getting it done: The Chiefs use two- and three-tight end formations to stretch the line of scrimmage, then send Jamaal Charles (quick, shifty) and Thomas Jones (patient, powerful) to exploit the cutback lanes that result when defenders have eight or more gaps to worry about. The Chiefs have been able to grind out wins against some good defenses: the 49ers control the line of scrimmage well, but Jones and Charles hammered out 192 yards against them.


Bottom line: The Chiefs have the easiest schedule this side of the Sun Belt Conference and face defense-challenged opponents like the Broncos and Cardinals in upcoming weeks. They can rush right into the postseason with only the slightest assist from their passing game.


Oakland Raiders

168.5 yards per game, 4.9 yards per carry, 9 TD

Fluff factor: High. 144 "Ice the Win" yards may not seem like a high total, but see below.


Fast fact: Raiders rushing totals include 117 yards of quarterback scrambles and 121 yards of reverses and end-arounds by wide receivers. The Raiders have also played eight games, while most of the league has only played seven because of bye weeks; that’s why the Raiders lead the league in rushing while the Chiefs top them in yards per game. Add it all up, and the fluff factor in their rushing total is pretty high.


Getting it done: The Raiders are creative about hiding the deficiencies in their passing game. Receivers Lou Murphy, Jacoby Ford, and Darrius Heyward-Bey have all produced big plays on end-arounds, and fullback Marcel Reece (91 yards) gets into the act at times. The end-arounds and fullback bellies keep defenses from loading up on Darren McFadden (fast and strong with limited moves) and Michael Bush (slow and powerful), so the Raiders don’t have to worry about a stacked box, even when their passing game isn’t clicking. When facing an opponent like the Broncos, it’s best to just keep handing off and wait for surrender anyway.


Bottom line: Both McFadden and Bush are injury prone, and the Raiders are still the Raiders — hot streak or not. They may be running well, but there’s a lot of air in their statistics. The Raiders will hang around the wild-card race all season, but if you want to back an AFC West surprise team, back the Chiefs.

[TheGuardian]

Are you talking about the same Charles that trails McFadden by only 2 yards on 19 fewer carries (and one less game to boot)?

I just want to keep quoting it.

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by Championship

Quote it all you want, doesn't make it true.

McFadden missed weeks 5 and 6 due to a hamstring injury.

And yet he STILL has more rushing, receiving yards and touchdowns than Charles.

Sorry, but your boy can't hold McFadden's jock. Couldn't hold it in college, and can't hold it in the pros.

That might have something to do with the Chiefs having two elite RB's. Put Charles on the Raiders and he has more yards and TD's than DMC, same with Jones.

[RustShack]

Are you talking about the same Charles that trails McFadden by only 2 yards on 19 fewer carries

Yeah, thats real nice to say. ****in faiders are reeruned.

[Shogun]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Are you talking about the same Charles that trails McFadden by only 2 yards on 19 fewer carries (and one less game to boot)?

I just want to keep quoting it.

Truth.

[JTagg7754]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Are you talking about the same Charles that trails McFadden by only 2 yards on 19 fewer carries (and one less game to boot)?

I just want to keep quoting it.

You do realize McFadden has missed time this year, right?

I doubt it.

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by JTagg7754

You do realize McFadden has missed time this year, right?

I doubt it.

Oh, that changes the fact that Charles trails McFadden by only 2 yards on 19 fewer carries?

[Championship]

Originally Posted by RustShack

That might have something to do with the Chiefs having two elite RB's. Put Charles on the Raiders and he has more yards and TD's than DMC, same with Jones.

Thomas Jones elite my ass.

Dude is solid, but elite? LOL. There is a reason why nobody wanted to sign him. He's damaged goods. Take away his 70 yard run against the Jaguars, and he's averaging right around 4.0 yards per carry.

He's not elite. In fact, Michael Bush is way better than Thomas Jones.

[Shogun]

Mcfadden is injury prone, no good!

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by Championship

Thomas Jones elite my ass.

Dude is solid, but elite? LOL. There is a reason why nobody wanted to sign him. He's damaged goods. Take away his 70 yard run against the Jaguars, and he's averaging right around 4.0 yards per carry.

He's not elite. In fact, Michael Bush is way better than Thomas Jones.

Elite may have been the wrong word, but hes sure as hell better than Bush at this time.

[Championship]

Originally Posted by JTagg7754

You do realize McFadden has missed time this year, right?

I doubt it.

Dude, I told these Hillbillies the same thing but they won't listen.

McFadden has missed time, yet he still trumps Charles in every category ROFL

But they just won't listen. Can't educate those who don't want to be educated, ya know?

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by JTagg7754

No, Ronnie Dobbs, it's actually easy to use any stat to swing an argument in your way. Want to see? OK:

The only reason you're ranked higher than us in rushing is b/c of the bye. You have had a week to sit while we have had to play another game and keep the average where it should be. W/ another game under your belt, you'd be down around us and if you had played any competition outside of the bottom dweller and poor run defenses you've played, it would be around 10th.

See? See how easy it is, Ronnie??

Well let's think about that for a second, brainiac. To match your 8 game rushing total, the Chiefs will have to rush for a grand total of 15 yards this weekend. I'll take the over and you take the under and we'll meet back here next Monday to see how it plays out, OK?

[RustShack]

So if McFadden is so good, why aren't the Raiders #1 in rushing? I don't get it.

[Championship]

Originally Posted by RustShack

Elite may have been the wrong word, but hes sure as hell better than Bush at this time.

Ask all 32 GMs who would they rather have Jones or Bush, and I guarantee you all 32 of them would pick Bush.

Bush is almost as talented as McFadden. He would've been a first round pick had he not got injured in college.

[JTagg7754]

Originally Posted by Championship

Dude, I told these Hillbillies the same thing but they won't listen.

McFadden has missed time, yet he still trumps Charles in every category ROFL

But they just won't listen. Can't educate those who don't want to be educated, ya know?

It seems that very few of these people have a logical grasp on football. They are all homers. It's a shame but whatever, it is what it is.

I think it's funny they think I'm a homer. Do you belong to RFN? If so, you're probably getting a chuckle out of it also.

[Championship]

Originally Posted by RustShack

So if McFadden is so good, why aren't the Raiders #1 in rushing? I don't get it.

Because we have this thing called a competent passing game. We have these guys that go out for routes and catch the ball.

We aren't one dimensional. We can hurt you in a variety of ways, unlike the Chiefs.