Chiefs Re-Signing Brandon Carr: What Do You Do - Page 12

Direckshun · 12-05-2011, 01:41 AM

There's about four more week of football ahead of us.

We've managed to wrap up Brandon Flowers during the season, Tamba Hali this offseason, DJ and Jamaal Charles last offseason...

This offseason, we have two very important players hitting free agency, and one franchise tag.

The tag goes to Bowe, no sweat. It's impossible to find franchise WRs, and when you have one, you must keep it. He's Top 10 at his position. Carr, for all his talent, is not. He's maybe top 25.

But what would you do if:

Carr (or, more likely, his agent) knows Carr is bound to be drastically overpaid on the free agent market, as young talent almost always is.

He knows the Chiefs desperately want Carr to stay on board. And the Chiefs have no leverage to keep him on board because their franchise tag is tied up with Bowe.

So knowing he has ALL the leverage in this situation, Carr opens big:

"I want 5 years, $50 million, $22 million guaranteed.

Just like my teammate, Brandon Flowers." (And other top flight corners like Johnathan Joseph, who got almost the exact same deal.)

You can haggle with Carr, but keep in mind, you're incredibly time-pressured, and Carr knows he has the leverage here. Even if you get him to come down, it's going to be nickels and dimes lower, not much else.

Do you (a.) sign Carr to a damn near identical deal to Brandon Flowers, or (b.)let Carr walk and just collect the 3rd or 4th round compensatory pick next year.

That's likely going to be our options at this point, folks.

Poll forthcoming.

PRIEST · 12-06-2011, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79

Yep.

Everybody just assumes Flowers is the far superior corner but if you look at how they've played this year, you could easily say Carr has had the better year.

The guy is young, big, fast & can play. Furthermore it's at one of the most crucial positions on the field.

It's so easy. Just pay him and be happy with your corner play for the next 5 years.

THIS

Direckshun · 12-06-2011, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

@kentbabb
Kent Babb I asked him about that Sunday night. He said: "Does that sound like me?" MT @ArrowheadPride Carr "asking for a LOT" (in new deal)

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

****ing awesome.

Uh, no. That actually doesn't mean anything.

ToxSocks · 12-06-2011, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Probably.

I was scanning expiring contracts for this upcoming offseason and there are a couple tackles and a few wide receivers I'd be happy to load the Chiefs up with. If Miami somehow lets Kendall Langford or Paul Soliai go, I'd throw $50 million at either.

Tackles & WR's? That's your plan? You would rather give them 50 Mill than a good, homegrown CB?

ToxSocks · 12-06-2011, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Uh, no. That actually doesn't mean anything.

It means that the previous tweet was misinformation. It means a lot.

Nightfyre · 12-06-2011, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Uh, no. That actually doesn't mean anything.

Sounds to me like Carr wants to be a Chief and that, as long as the money is reasonable, it won't be an issue. Maybe I'm reading too much into it.

philfree · 12-06-2011, 02:58 PM

So we can't tender Carr at a certain level to guarantee compensation if he chooses to sign elsewhere? I say re-sign him but if we don't we can still get decent compensation for him.

jd1020 · 12-06-2011, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

So we can't tender Carr at a certain level to guarantee compensation if he chooses to sign elsewhere?

This is his 4th season in the NFL. He is no longer going to be a RFA.

philfree · 12-06-2011, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

This is his 4th season in the NFL. He is no longer going to be a RFA.

Oh yeah the new CBA.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 12-12-2011, 01:43 PM

BCarr39Brandon Carr

Crazy, crazy day. I've seen and been thru so much in these 4yrs. But at the end of the day the motto remains the same: LDC

**Bowser** · 12-12-2011, 01:44 PM

Nightfyre · 12-12-2011, 01:45 PM

LDC? WTF?

ShowtimeSBMVP · 12-12-2011, 01:49 PM

What the hell does LDC mean?

Willie Lanier · 12-12-2011, 02:15 PM

Least Developed Country?

Sofa King · 12-12-2011, 02:16 PM

Lost, Don't Care

Direckshun · 12-12-2011, 02:18 PM

Live & die a Chief.

Just kidding. No idea.

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